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Ric 4003: neck adjustments..

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Root 5, Apr 15, 2002.


  1. Root 5

    Root 5

    Nov 25, 2001
    Canada
    I was wondering if any of you have had problems with the stability of your 4003 necks. My bass is a 1998 and I always have to tweak the neck. Ever had or heard about this problem?

    My bass has quite a heavily flamed neck...Would that decrease the strength of the wood? Mine is the flamiest 4003 I've ever seen.:confused: :confused: :( :(
     
  2. Intrepid

    Intrepid

    Oct 15, 2001
    It might, but its doubtful...I don't have to make neck adjustments very often. Only time if it suddenly gets hot or cold then I might have to adjust...right now I have my action pretty high just so I won't have to deal with the crazy inconsistent weather...
     
  3. Root 5

    Root 5

    Nov 25, 2001
    Canada
    If I may ask, do you live in a state or province that has drastic weather changes?

    I live in Ontario and we get all 4 seasons which can be hard on a delicate guitar. I don't need to adjust any of my other axes. Maybe mine is a dud.
     
  4. JayAmel

    JayAmel Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2002
    Aurillac, France
    Root 5 : I live in a region where weather does not change much (more than 300 sunny days per year, wow). Also, my 4003 ALWAYS stands in its hard shell case when I don't play, and the hard shell case is in a small room, protected from heat, sunrays and humidity.

    Despite of all this care, my 4003 seems not to have a very "steady" neck. Though it is not a systematic problem on 4003's, it seems that this happens much more on 4003's than on 4001's, though 4003's are supposed to have a "reinforced neck".

    BTW, when I was a beginner, I played a 4001. I did almost ALL the mistakes you can do with a bass :
    - leaving it out of its case, exposed to the sunrays,
    - changing the strings "wildly" (removing the 4 strings at once, then restringing without caring of the gauge at all),
    - etc.
    and I NEVER had to setup the neck. And the bass kept quite steady, straight neck, low action, no buzz.

    That's why, when you read me talking about Rickenbackers, I tend to recommend the purchase of a used 4001 instead of a 4003.

    All the best,
     
  5. Thornton Davis

    Thornton Davis Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 1999
    Toronto
    Have you changed string gauge or string type just before the neck starts to wander on you?
    It's not uncommon for a neck to wander if you have done either of these to your bass. A minor adjustment of the rods should take care of it. But make sure you know what you're doing. If you don't or are unsure I would suggest that you take your bass to a pro guitar repair shop and let them do it for you. The Twelfth Fret are the best around if you're in the GTA region.

    The flame on the back of the neck will have nothing to do with the necks stability.

    I also live in Ontario and endure the same weather as you. My 4001 (1972) does not suffer any ill effects from the weather. Good luck with your bass. If you can't repair it yourself, go to the Twelfth Fret, I guarantee you that you won't be sorry and your bass will be perfect.
    Cheers,
     
  6. JayAmel

    JayAmel Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2002
    Aurillac, France
    Beware while adjusting the rod on your 4003 : it requires a special wrench, some kind of a LONG Allen wrench. It is NOT supplied with the bass (at least it was not supplied with mine).

    All the best,
     
  7. Root 5

    Root 5

    Nov 25, 2001
    Canada
    Thanks for the responses. I have never changed the strings and I always keep it in its case.

    I always take it to the place I bought it and they adjust the neck for me and it plays awesome but the problem is that it doesn't stay that way for long. I don't have to adjust my other basses hardly at all but this Ric is very unstable even after 4 years. I may ship it back to Rickenbacker and get them to deal with it.

    **An important word of advice; if you buy a new Ric be sure to fill out and send in the warranty card within the allotted period or Ric WILL NOT honour the warranty even if you bought from an authorized dealer and have the receipt.!!

    Another customer from the same store bought a 4003 that developed a severe twist in the neck..Ric said " Too bad, you're out of luck!! " You didn't send in the warranty card.
     
  8. JayAmel

    JayAmel Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2002
    Aurillac, France
    Root 5 : should you need a luthier to FIX your neck problem on your 4003 (and not only make a simple setup), I know a specialist.

    Just email me jaylanb@hotmail.com and I'll be pleased to give you his contact.

    All the best,
     
  9. ...what's the maximum period for sending in the warranty card? I didn't know there was a warranty card! I leased a new 4003 on Feb. 10th... never got a warranty card from the dealer... am I screwed if the thing ever starts drifting? (It's rock steady thus far... the neck is THICK (which I like), it's by FAR the chunkiest rick I've ever played, feels at least a good half-pound heavier than other ones I've played...

    --jeff
     
  10. JayAmel

    JayAmel Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2002
    Aurillac, France
    The RIC warranty card (valid only for US and Canada) must be sent to RIC within 14 days (the starting point being the date of the invoice).

    Was your dealer GC ? :D

    All the best,
     
  11. Oh lovely...

    That's really strange, Wayne at Long & McQuade on Granville here in Vancouver is always commended for his service, and I've never hard any problems with him...

    I guess i'm screwed... SH!T!!!

    I hope my neck stays stable...

    I don't think Wayne is much of a Rick expert, he really botched the initial setup job he did on my bass, the truss rod for the treble side of the neck was almost all the way out... man... if you want something done right you really do have to do it yourself.

    --jeff