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Ric5 Inspired build

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by Englishman, Aug 31, 2017.


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  1. Englishman

    Englishman

    Apr 26, 2017
    Detroit
    I've been digging the Ric 4003 5 string conversions that @Ric5 does. I want to keep my 4003 four string so I'm going to go ahead and build myself a version. I already have the nut, the bridge, the tuners. Having trouble deciding the pickups though. I want it to sound like a Ric but I'm not going to pay $10000000 for an undersized p90.

    Anyway, neck through using my fave formula of mahogany/maple/walnut/mahogany thing.
    Wood is just about ready.
    Waiting on the fingerboard wood and a 35" template for my LMI fret slot jig.

    Should be fun!

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  2. ctmullins

    ctmullins fueled by beer and coconut Supporting Member

    Apr 18, 2008
    MS Gulf Coast
    I'm highly opinionated and extremely self-assured
    35"??
     
  3. thisSNsucks

    thisSNsucks Supporting Member

    Dec 19, 2004
    Yonkers, NY
    Rad! Looking forward to this one
     
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  4. Englishman

    Englishman

    Apr 26, 2017
    Detroit
    I know the RIC scale is 33.25 but I use the LMI slotting jig and there is no 33.25 template.
    Using the Stewmac fret calculator, if I use fret 1 as the nut, that should give me a scale length of 33.036 which is close enough I think. Or do I have it wrong? If I could do math I'd have a real job somewhere.
     
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  5. ctmullins

    ctmullins fueled by beer and coconut Supporting Member

    Apr 18, 2008
    MS Gulf Coast
    I'm highly opinionated and extremely self-assured
    Ah. Yep, I do the same thing with LMI slotted boards. I order them slotted for 35" and just lop off the first fret. :thumbsup:
     
  6. Englishman

    Englishman

    Apr 26, 2017
    Detroit
    Just a slotting' away!

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  7. Gilmourisgod

    Gilmourisgod

    Jun 23, 2014
    Cape Cod MA
    Oh, you fancy slotting jig people! I had LMI slot the board for me to 33.25" scale, done! They CNC it, one less worry. Subbed on this build, I'm stuck in paint learning curve hell on my Ric build, need some vicarious woodwork porn to cheer me up.
     
  8. Englishman

    Englishman

    Apr 26, 2017
    Detroit
    Well, yeah, you could also just buy a 4003 and shortcut all the fun :)

    It's all part of the learning curve for me, I just want to be able to do just about every operation involved. To take it to an absurd level, I'd be out in the forest hacking down the tree and starting from there. Not very practical and not likely to happen so I'm sure I will stop the journey of going farther (backwards?) towards THAT point at some time.
    Trying to decide between binding on body and neck and all that. Still no idea about pickups.
     
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  9. Gilmourisgod

    Gilmourisgod

    Jun 23, 2014
    Cape Cod MA
    It takes me 3 years to build a bass, so a fret slotting jig would be hard to justify, though of course I've blown plenty of cash on other single-purpose widgets. Expensive hobby we got here! I never seem to learn the lesson that the cheapskate (me) pays the most in the long run. If I had any sense, i'd have bought a used 4003 long ago, but I got obsessed with wanting checker binding and a neck volute so the headstock doesn't snap off willy-nilly. And yes it HAS been fun, despite my incessant whining. I'm just jealous, wishing I was cutting wood instead of thrashing around with a spraygun.
     
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  10. Englishman

    Englishman

    Apr 26, 2017
    Detroit
    I'm not good at the patience game.
    Just finishing up this one, couple of finish blemishes to fix and tuning stabilty sucks.
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    This one is in the spray booth currently, 3 coats down, 5 to go.

    teles.

    So I play with the bass bits until these two are done and then concentrate on it. I'd be surprised if it's not done by October.
     
  11. Gilmourisgod

    Gilmourisgod

    Jun 23, 2014
    Cape Cod MA
    I'm in "Learning to use Waterbase Finishes Hell", inches from tossing in the towel and buying a can of Rustoleum Gloss Black spray. This finish stuff is hard.
     

  12. That Tele style body on the bottom is interesting. What bridge is going one that? Trem King?
     
  13. Englishman

    Englishman

    Apr 26, 2017
    Detroit
    Evertune T type.
     
  14. Englishman

    Englishman

    Apr 26, 2017
    Detroit
    I just started spraying after many good Tru Oil outcomes. Using a catalyzed Nitro that cures in 24 hours.
     
  15. Englishman

    Englishman

    Apr 26, 2017
    Detroit
    Inlays done. Board radiused.
    I love the little Stewmac doodad that lets you know if the slot is deep enough after all the epoxy and sanding.

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  16. Englishman

    Englishman

    Apr 26, 2017
    Detroit
    Binding and fretwire came in the mail so I threw it on the board. Gluing up the middle 5 pieces too.

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  17. Englishman

    Englishman

    Apr 26, 2017
    Detroit
    Marking out the body shape and stuff.

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    If I go with the traditional fret in line with the body, the bridge seems like it's too far forwards. I realize the Ric bridge is a little bit of an optical illusion given where the saddles are.

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    I do like the bridge farther back when I'm playing. Shortening the neck a couple of inches would help this but mean I couldn't go with the regular pickguard.

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    What would you all recommend?
     
  18. ctmullins

    ctmullins fueled by beer and coconut Supporting Member

    Apr 18, 2008
    MS Gulf Coast
    I'm highly opinionated and extremely self-assured
    Playability trumps aesthetics any day; however, I doubt moving the neck down to that extent will hamper upper fret access. So I vote for moving it down!
     
  19. Gilmourisgod

    Gilmourisgod

    Jun 23, 2014
    Cape Cod MA
    Yeah, that's the dusty end anyway, you can probably still reach the upper frets in a pinch. What spacing are you using for the pups, 24th and 36 fret positions? I bought one of those aluminum fret cauls for 10 radius, found I had to add some tape layers at the center of the radius edge, it didn't seem to want to push the frets down all the way in the center. I guess that's why the Stewmac fret cauls have a swivel pin, to cancel out any misalignment. Looking good!
     
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  20. Englishman

    Englishman

    Apr 26, 2017
    Detroit
    I'm going with stock spacing as on my 4003. Around 2.25 at the bridge and 1.75 ish at the nut.
     
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