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Rig dilemma

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Octavarian, Jun 20, 2008.

  1. Jun 20, 2008 #1
    Octavarian

    Octavarian

    Jun 20, 2008
    Canada
    Alright, in a few weeks I'm getting a new rig.

    I was originally going to get a Gallien Krueger 800RB and some Traynor cab whose model name eludes me at the moment. Anyways, I ended up finding a sweet deal on an SVT 610-HLF. I'm not missing the chance to score an Ampeg cab, lol. I have that on hold now. I'm no genius when it comes to electrical matters (Or lets say, I'm not even competent, haha), and I've got a few questions.

    Running a 300W head through a 600W cab is bad thing from all sources I've heard and read, is there any truth to that? I don't mind upgrading to a different head, but I'm not overflowing in the cash department either. Would something like a GK 700RB-II head, which runs at 480W low freq, and 50W high freq be a good head to go with? I think that is in my price range.

    If not, are there any other recommendations?

    Thanks for your time

    Octavarian
     
  2. Jun 20, 2008 #2
    Energy

    Energy

    Jun 20, 2006
    Germany
    i don't think so. as long as the amp does not clip permanently, it should be fine.
     
  3. Jun 20, 2008 #3
    JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    No, there is no truth to that.
     
  4. Jun 20, 2008 #4
    Stumbo

    Stumbo Guest

    Feb 11, 2008
  5. Jun 20, 2008 #5
    Octavarian

    Octavarian

    Jun 20, 2008
    Canada
    Awesome, thanks. That makes me feel a lot better, heh.
     
  6. Jun 20, 2008 #6
    Big Thump

    Big Thump

    Jun 29, 2005
    North of 49
    The 800,700 11 or the 1001 11 would be fantastic into 610HLF,with no damage done though the 50 watt amp on the newer GKs biamp section would be useless,you would not be dissapointed GKs go very well with Ampeg cabs
     
  7. Jun 20, 2008 #7
    heath_r_91

    heath_r_91

    Jun 3, 2006
    Topeka Area, Kansas
    Endorse:Artus-Basshanger-Dava-EC-Hartke-Orange-InEarz-SHS-Tigi
    I think the only reason that people say that you can blow a high powered cab with a low powered amp is because of clipping.

    As long as you keep both the input gain and master from clipping then I don't think there is a way to blow out a cab by
    "under powering."

    Of course I may be wrong, but that is just the way I understand it.
     
  8. Jun 20, 2008 #8
    seanm

    seanm I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize! Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2004
    Ottawa, Canada
    Assuming a 300W head is loud enough for your playing think of it this way: If you bought a 600W head, and turned it down roughly half way, would it hurt the cab?
     
  9. Jun 20, 2008 #9
    Richard Lindsey

    Richard Lindsey Supporting Member

    Mar 25, 2000
    SF Bay Area
    Clipping per se isn't the problem. The OVERpowering, or the overexcursion, that a clipping amp *may* (but doesn't necessarily) generate is the problem. (Both of these things can also be generated by amps that are not clipping in the slightest.)

    No cab was ever burnt out by being fed less power than it would take to damage it.
     
  10. Jun 20, 2008 #10
    Richard Lindsey

    Richard Lindsey Supporting Member

    Mar 25, 2000
    SF Bay Area
    No offense, but you should read around a little more. There are a *ton* of threads right here on TalkBass that debunk that.
     
  11. Jun 20, 2008 #11
    Richard Lindsey

    Richard Lindsey Supporting Member

    Mar 25, 2000
    SF Bay Area
    There is zero truth to that statement as formulated. You need some better sources, bro! ;)
     
  12. Jun 20, 2008 #12
    extro

    extro Guest

    Apr 7, 2008
    Greater Toronto Area, Canada
    i play 120watt amp through a 1600watt cab
     
  13. Jun 20, 2008 #13
    Eminor3rd

    Eminor3rd BLAAAAARRGGHH!! Supporting Member

    Feb 10, 2008
    Detroit
    +1
     
  14. Jun 21, 2008 #14
    Octavarian

    Octavarian

    Jun 20, 2008
    Canada
    Haha, yeah man. For having played almost 6 years, I really need to learn more about rigs, I've been too busy playing! :D
     
  15. Jun 21, 2008 #15
    JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Same here...I'm making up for 30 years of playing but knowing nothing about amps ;)