I finally have the set up I have longed for sense I started doing this back in the day's of Chicago's third Album(1973- for you youg-uns). With the purchase of my LDS 2 X 10 neo and it's edition to my setup, I can bleed ears and and actually hear differences between the notes!! No mud, just shake your booty bass tones! One quick note to all of you amp shoppers out there, 300 watts of Eden power is a lot of power, I can play any room in Detroit accept the stadiums with this set up! I can't turn it above six in my house (gain at 4, bass pre at 7) too much pain in a good way! So here it is: Sadowsky Metro RV5 or Pedulla Buzz or (MIA Jazz Deluxe 4-not picured) into Rapco A/B box to Boss TU5 to EBS multi-comp to EBS octave to TC chorus-flanger to Line 6 DL4 (On Furman Pedalboard) to Avalon U5 to Eden Traveler (old origional 300 watt) to LDS 2 X 10 Neo and Eden 410T (origional drivers) Both the LDS and the Eden are very efficient cabs, also I find the effects are mostly used with the frettless. I did a review of the LDS on Harmony central , will be posting a mini review here. NOW IF I COULD JUST GET A DECENT GIG!!!!!!