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Rogue basses

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Discrepancy, Jan 21, 2001.


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  1. Discrepancy

    Discrepancy Guest

    I was told by someone in England that pretty much all basses are good execpt Rogue. In Musicains Friend they are $100. That's cheap. Are they worth buying?
     
  2. No, unless you are going to smash it or something...That would be cool!!!!
     
  3. basslax

    basslax

    Apr 20, 2000
    Washington, DC
    i dunno..i heard theyre pretty good firewood. but youll have to take the p.u.s off. hmmmm rouge. not worth $5. im not kidding. rouges should be shot. (this isnt a flame towards rouges. i would never want to put down a company..lol)
    the output is bad, the sound is bad, the craftsmanship is bad, the frets are bad, the finish is bad... (yes i have actually played one) but jim makes a good point..if you wanted to smash something on stage or in a music video to look cool rouge would be it. just be carefull not to play it by accident. :)

    [Edited by basslax on 01-21-2001 at 05:43 PM]
     
  4. Discrepancy

    Discrepancy Guest

    Thanks. Hey maybe I should by one and use it for target practise. Do any of you know which band invented guitar smashing?
     
  5. Lance Jaegan

    Lance Jaegan

    Dec 23, 2000
    Illinois
    The Who.
     
  6. Roit- The Who. If a Rogue bass sells for $100. then it must have cost about $12.50 to manufacture. However, I played a Jay Turser MM copy, and the thing was amazing for $250.!
     
  7. I must add that it should be a felony crime to smash an
    instrument, unless it's a Rogue! Love The Who, but it makes
    me cry when I see instruments being smashed.

    Here's what Rogue IS good for, however. If you're thinking
    your equipment sucks, and you don't really have the money
    to buy something better, go and play a Rogue - you'll be
    much more satisfied with the equipment you do have. I'm
    serious, I've done this and it works.
     
  8. Discrepancy

    Discrepancy Guest

    Er no you are all worng. It the Clash. A British punk band. But You were right that the British invented it.
     
  9. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    Ummm, The Who was smashing their instruments in the 1960's, and I'm pretty sure that The Clash didn't exist until the late 1970's.
     
  10. The Clash at first tucked in snugly behind punk's loudest
    noise, the Sex Pistols (whom they supported on 'the
    Anarchy tour'), and later became a much more consistent and
    intriguing force. Guitarist Mick Jones (b. 26 June 1955,
    London, England) had formed London SS in 1975, whose
    members at one time included bassist Paul Simonon (b. 15 December 1956,
    London, England) and drummer Nicky 'Topper' Headon (b. 30 May 1955,
    Bromley, Kent, England). Joe Strummer (b. John Graham Mellor, 21 August
    1952, Ankara, Turkey) had spent the mid-70s fronting a pub-rock group
    called the 101ers, playing early rock 'n' roll-style numbers such as 'Keys To
    Your Heart'. The early line-up of the Clash was completed by guitarist Keith
    Levene but he left early in 1976 with another original member, drummer Terry
    Chimes, whose services were called upon intermittently during the following
    years. They signed to CBS Records and during three weekends they recorded
    The Clash in London with sound engineer Mickey Foote taking on the
    producer's role. In 1977 Rolling Stone magazine called it the 'definitive punk
    album' and elsewhere it was recognized that they had brilliantly distilled the
    anger, depression and energy of mid-70s England. More importantly, they had
    infused the message and sloganeering with strong tunes and pop hooks, as on
    'I'm So Bored With The USA' and 'Career Opportunities'. The album reached
    number 12 in the UK charts and garnered almost universal praise. CBS were
    keen to infiltrate the American market and Blue Öyster Cult 's founder/lyricist
    Sandy Pearlman was brought in to produce Give 'Em Enough Rope. The
    label's manipulative approach failed and it suffered very poor sales in the USA,
    but in the UK it reached number 2, despite claims that its more rounded edges
    amounted to a sell-out of the band's earlier, much-flaunted punk ethics. They
    increasingly embraced reggae elements, seemingly a natural progression from
    their anti-racist stance, and had a minor UK hit with '(White Man) In
    Hammersmith Palais' in July 1978, following it up with the frothy punk-pop of
    'Tommy Gun' - their first Top 20 hit. Their debut album was finally released in
    the USA as a double set including tracks from their singles and it sold healthily
    before London Calling, produced by the volatile Guy Stevens, marked a
    return to almost top form. They played to packed houses across the USA early
    in 1980 and were cover stars in many prestigious rock magazines. Typically,
    their next move was over-ambitious and the triple set, Sandinista!, was leaden
    and too sprawling after the acute concentration of earlier records. It scraped
    into the UK Top 20 and sales were disappointing, despite CBS making it
    available at a special reduced price. The experienced rock producer Glyn
    Johns was brought in to instigate a tightening-up and Combat Rock was as
    snappy as anticipated. It was recorded with Terry Chimes on drums after
    Headon had abruptly left the group. Chimes was later replaced by Pete
    Howard. 'Rock The Casbah', a jaunty, humorous song written by Headon,
    became a Top 10 hit in the USA and reached number 30 in the UK, aided by a
    sardonic video. During 1982 they toured the USA supporting the Who at their
    stadium concerts. Many observers were critical of a band that had once
    ridiculed superstar status, for becoming part of the same machinery. A
    simmering tension between Jones and Strummer eventually led to bitterness and
    Jones left in 1983 after Strummer accused him of becoming lazy. He told the
    press: 'He wasn't with us any more.' Strummer later apologized for lambasting
    Jones and admitted he was mainly to blame for the break-up of a successful
    songwriting partnership: 'I stabbed him in the back', was his own honest
    account of proceedings. The Clash struggled without Jones's input, despite the
    toothless Cut The Crap reaching number 16 in the UK charts in 1985. Mick
    Jones formed Big Audio Dynamite with another product of the 70s London
    scene, Don Letts, and for several years became a force merging dance with
    powerful, spiky pop choruses. Strummer finally disbanded the Clash in 1986
    and after a brief tour with Latino Rockabilly War and a period playing rhythm
    guitar with the Pogues, he turned almost full-time to acting and production. He
    supervised the soundtrack to the film Sid And Nancy, about the former Sex
    Pistols bassist Sid Vicious and his girlfriend Nancy Spungen. In 1988 the
    Clash's most furious but tuneful songs were gathered together on the excellent
    compilation The Story Of The Clash. They made a dramatic and unexpected
    return to the charts in 1991 when 'Should I Stay Or Should I Go?', originally a
    UK number 17 hit in October 1982, was re-released by CBS after the song
    appeared in a Levi's jeans television advertisement. Incredibly, the song
    reached number 1, thereby prompting more reissues of Clash material and
    fuelling widespread rumours of a band reunion, which came to nought.
     
  11. td1368

    td1368

    Jan 9, 2001
    Philadelphia
    Sorry embellisher if discrepancy says your worng you must be worng.

    "Hope I die before I get old"
     
  12. Roit-- The Who- He must be a kid.
     
  13. I'm tired after that.
     
  14. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    So is td1368 and Discrepancy the same person?

    Or are there 2 kids(;)) that think that a band that formed in 1976 invented smashing guitars 10 years after The Who did it?

    Oh, and by the way, td, I'm not worng. Unless somebody did it before The Who made it their trademark.

    Welcome to Talkbass! :D

     
  15. it the 50's my grandfather fell down a flight of stairs with his guitar, so as far i am concerned he invented it, the who comes in second. the clash? i saw the cover of london calling so i guess they did it, i saw a video were sid vicious did it but sid vicious doesn't count because he gets points taking off for being a junkie.

    question for mark, dude did you cut and paste that from allmusic.com or ubl.com?
     
  16. This is Discrepancy. I am not td1368 I don't even know who they are. I was told the Clash started smashing guitars. Whoever said smashing guitars is bad unless they are Rogues was right. I tried one out today just to see if you people were telling the truth. You were right. I could have made a better bass myself. The former bassist for the band I am in now, Discrepancy, (check out our website at http://www.elkcreeksports.com/discrepancy ) has a Rogue and he said it plays nice. But I think he was smokin' weed or something.
     
  17. I hope he cut and pasted.
     
  18. homer on:
    mmm curry ice cream
    sunburst hammer
    homer off:

    welcome Discrepancy
     
  19. er thanks.
     
  20. notduane

    notduane

    Nov 24, 2000
    Location
    I got one! I got one!

    Back in college I was at a friend's house for a party.
    This guy pipes up and says...
    (dude) "I hyah y'all know somethin' `bout geetars"
    (me) "Yup"
    (dude) "Maybe you can look at this ol' 6-string I got and tune `er up"
    (me) "OK"

    dude goes into a back room and comes out totin' an old acoustic, backside first.
    It had a bea-ootiful brown finish fading to black at the edges.
    I look up at the headstock and saw little, round pearl tuning knobs :eek: .
    dude hands it to me. I start at the top, givin' it the once-over.
    "Gibson" inlaid in M.O.P. at the top of the headstock. Down, down, I look.
    The board's great. Sure enough, it's an old "L" series Gibson acoustic with f-holes :eek:
    Wait a minute! :mad: The left "f" is OK, but the one on the right looks like somebody
    took a dang hedge trimmer to it.

    (me) "What the f*ck happened here dude ?!?"
    (dude) "Oh yeah, huh-huh. My grand-dad used t' play bars `n such in Alaska,
    and when he wasn't a pickin', he was whompin' rowdies upside the head with it. hyuk-hyuk".
    I came real dang close to whompin' HIM upside the head with what was left.

    My heart sank. There was a silence from my outburst and use of the "f" word.
    I thought I heard a distant howl from George Gruhn :p .

    It looked a lot like the 1924 L5 below at http://www.gruhn.com .
    That one's VG+ condition. With the exception of that chewed f-hole,
    the one I saw coulda' been E (excellent) [​IMG][​IMG].
    The one below is goin' for...(gulp)...$40,000 [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     



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