Hello,very nice website/forum!I've already found a few mentions of Ruins and other "out there"bassists so this should be a great site to frequent.OK,for those who are still reading: RUINS:Aside from basic rock and funk,this is the group that really inspires me.I know there is ALOT of music out there,and I personally am of the belief that everything has been done before in some fashion,but on the whole I've never really heard anyone use the bass like RUINS.I'm recently aware of Lightning Bolt,but they are more hardcore pummeling and not as varied as RUINS. I know RUINS have gone through at least 4 bassists since the beginning.My first exposure was Stonehenge:Kaziyoshi Kimoto played the hell out of his bass,raw and dirty,the energy is incredible.Then came Ryuchi Masuda,who updated to at least a 5 string and effects which still have me scratching my head. Now Hisashi Sasaki is the current bassist,and I believe he uses a 6 string. If anyone is really familiar with this band I would love any ideas on how they get their sound.I'm particularly interested in the current bass players method.I think most of the bassists in RUINS were previously guitar players,so perhaps we aren't talking of pure bass technique here,but I am still inspired by all the sounds they come up with. Also,are they fibbing a bit?I've heard some amazingly high pitched squeals and synth noises coming from these albums,I ASSUME they are bass.But very often I'll read a review where the reviewer will state"They've added a guitar player"..uh,I think not.But maybe I'm wrong? I know Hisashi has used a midi controller,which I honestly don't know what it is,how it works.But on the Vrresto album,he's able to get synth/piano/faux woodwind sounds out of his bass.And I remember reading a short blip about how he took a sample of a cat meowing and ran it through his computer and played it/triggered it through the bass..I don't know. Anyway,any ideas on how these guys get their sound?And could someone recommend other bands who have a similar sound/approach?And yes,I'm familiar with Magma.