I can't believe how overlloked this group is! They've been making incredible music for bass and drums since 1985. Theyre almost certainly the blueprint for any act on 31g and the bass playing is great too. Good spokesfolk for pick playing, i can never work out how to convincingly keep a pick ready for changeovers but after seeing some vids I think i might try again! Have a look out for some of their albums: Vrresto, Hyderomastgroningem and Tzomborgha float my boat the most personally. Anyone else into these gents? Apparently it's just the drummer now under the name ruins-alone and he's been through several bassists but hey over 20 years of music making probably makes you fairly anal about who you work with!