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Rumble volume problem

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Markyo, Jul 25, 2018.


  1. Markyo

    Markyo

    Jul 24, 2018
    I'm playing through a Fender Rumble 500 combo connected to the 210 cab. (Ray 34 Bass and Boss Bc-1X compressor). Plenty oomph you might think for pubs and clubs. Love the sound but here's the problem..

    I play with a classic rock outfit where the guitarists like to crank up their Marshall and Mesa amps (too much), so I need to keep up so I don't get lost in the mix. However as soon as I go beyond 12 o'clock on the master volume.. max distortion, farting etc. horrible. Is this normal???

    I have the gain completely off and the bass EQ at 9-10 o'clock, low mid at 11 o'clock. Helps a bit but not much.

    I would appreciate any advice (short of leaving this band) on an EQ set up which will maximise volume but minimise bad distortion. Thanks.
     
  2. thisisntme

    thisisntme

    Feb 18, 2016
    Is your band really cranking their Marshalls in pubs? Plug your amp into the soundboard for shows in nice venues.
     
  3. Giffro

    Giffro

    Apr 29, 2017
    South Australia
    For the best answer possible go ask the question again in the Fender Rumble Club. Lots of experts in there.
    Fender Rumble Club
     
  4. Have you tried a higher gain setting? And more Lo Mids? Like, the Lo Mids at 1 o'clock, or at 2 o'clock?
     
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  5. voided3

    voided3

    Nov 11, 2008
    I find on my Rumble 500 head that you lose a lot of perceived "loudness" with the gain set any lower than 10 'o clock. You can crank that gain knob and not really worry about distortion, in my experience, but I don't have a Stingray. I do have a Jazz Bass with DiMarzio Model J's wired in series I've tried this with, however, so it's rather hot for a passive bass. Higher gain settings just give some more compression.

    I'll also echo the above regarding the midrange EQ. A "flat" setting on the Rumble is with the bass and treble knobs around 10 'o clock, high mids around 2 'o clock, and low mids around 1 'o clock.
     
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  6. Bodeanly

    Bodeanly

    Mar 20, 2015
    Chicago
    I use a 500 combo with a 112 extension and am trying to imagine it never being loud enough. Never farted out. Dial back on your bass knob. I understand that just because you’re new to the site, it doesn’t mean that you’re new to bass, but a lot of “new” bassists think that they have to crank the bass knob.
     
  7. btmpancake

    btmpancake Gold Supporting Member

    Aug 5, 2015
    Apollo beach, Florida
    Fender Rumble with 210 speakers and 350-380 watts keeping up with Mesa's and Marshall's cranked? Even if you open up your gain and volume you'll lose that volume war...but you can help yourself by adding another Fender Rumble 210 ext cab and get the full 500 watts and added speaker surface area. It will make a real difference but in the end they will have to turn down some.
     
  8. That's what OP already has.
     
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  9. redwingxix

    redwingxix

    Oct 21, 2015
    detroit
    I can't imagine a scenario where the rumble 500 (if working properly) would have trouble being loud and clear enough for any bar setting. We play medium sized bars and I never turn my master past nine o'clock.

    I will say that this is my third Rumble 500 combo. The first two had an issue similar to what you are describing. I believe the problem was a solder joint on the master circuit board? (i'm not an amp tech and it was a couple years ago). Fender replaced the combo and then the replacement developed the same problem a month later. My third and current one I've had for a year with no issues and I love the thing. If there is a Fender authorized service center near you I'd get it checked out, but be prepared to be without it for a couple weeks.
     
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  10. EarnestTBass

    EarnestTBass

    Feb 3, 2015
    Too late to prevent tinnitus, I have now formulated a theory that nobody wins volume wars.

    My rig was adequate- but somebody else was too loud. Why did I ever think that I needed to get too loud too?
     
  11. ^ True. There comes a point where the only answer to volume wars is refusing to participate.
     
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  12. tb4sbp

    tb4sbp

    May 9, 2017
    North East
    Volume wars suck

    I have read a lot about the Rumble series and have not heard the 500 (head or combo) not being loud enough
    With the added 2x10 you have 250w going to each pair (combo and ext) and that is moving a good bit of air
    I would definitely take it to a repair shop as this is not adding up
    And redwingxix has experienced this as well, great advice from someone who has gong thru it already

    Best of luck to you
     
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  13. Bass Man Dan

    Bass Man Dan Endorsing Artist: Ned Flanders' Bass-a-Reeno

    Oct 20, 2017
    Cincinnati
    This is some serious wisdom dropped here. Refusal to participate is the answer regardless of anything else.
     
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  14. Markyo

    Markyo

    Jul 24, 2018
     
  15. thisisntme

    thisisntme

    Feb 18, 2016
    turn up your gain
     
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  16. The Chuck

    The Chuck

    Dec 11, 2013
    Wilmington, NC
    WERD!
     
  17. Pilgrim

    Pilgrim Supporting Member

    I've played bars with a 120-watt single 15 combo and never had to crank it up.
     
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  18. Markyo

    Markyo

    Jul 24, 2018
    Thanks to you all for your advice. Will explore some of your EQ ideas. Also think the active Ray 34 and compressor signals may been too hot. Would turning the guitar volume and volume 'level' on the comprescorts down a bit help 'cool' things down a bit?
     
  19. redwingxix

    redwingxix

    Oct 21, 2015
    detroit
    I haven't seen it mentioned yet so I have to ask... you do have a good 9v battery in your bass, right?
     
  20. Markyo

    Markyo

    Jul 24, 2018
    A good point, but the battery is good.
     
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