Sadowsky JJ /PJ Much difference?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by 5bassman, Nov 18, 2005.

  1. 5bassman


    May 4, 2005
    I recently picked up a Sadowsky Ultra-Vintage w/JJ pickups and I'm about to trade for a Sadowsky Ultra-Vintage with J/J and P/J pickups. I plan on running it with the PJ setup. Will it be enough difference from my JJ bass to make a difference and justify owning both? They are both 4 string basses.
  2. Geezerman

    Geezerman Guest

    Nov 28, 2004
    Chicago, IL
    so are you talking about a bass with P and J pickup or 3 J and 1 P :eyebrow:

    Most likley your talking about a PJ combo, your going to get a little less growl and add a bit more thumb, more tonal variation IMO.
  3. kjones


    Dec 4, 2004
    As a guy who has a Sad PJ and a Sad JJ, I can tell you that the difference between the two is striking. They do not duplicate each other tonally.
  4. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    I'm also pondering the JJ versus P/J for my next Sadowsky. Can you give us some more details as to how the tones differ, and what each instrument does the best relative to the other?

    Thanks, Tom.
  5. 5bassman


    May 4, 2005
    And yes, one bass has J/J'S and the other has P/J's

    MAJOR METAL The Beagle Father Supporting Member

    Your keeping the Sadowsky you just got right?
  7. 5bassman


    May 4, 2005
    Oh Yea!

    I'm about to trade my MTD 535 for a Sadowsky Ultra-Vintage 4 that has 2 pickguards and a set of J/J's and a set of P/J's. Came this way from Sadowsky. I'm planning on running it with the P/J's installed.
  8. kjones


    Dec 4, 2004
    I'll be happy to go into more detail, although I'm always uncomfortable writing about tone descriptions.

    Y'all already know what a JJ sounds like with a Sadowsky. I rather dislike the "Fender on steroids" formulation as unhelpful, but I sort of understand what the original author was trying to convey. The JJ has a distinct Jazz tone, but more even across the frequency spectrum, and simply more authority everywhere.

    The P pickup is a similar analogue. You can definitely hear the lineage of the traditional Fender P. However, rather than being a thump or boom, it's a clear and firm broad tone with more fundamental, as opposed to the more emphasized upper harmonics of the Sad J.

    I use my PJ a lot, and roll it in the direction of the pickup I want to dominate the sound for that particular song. The Sadowsky P fits fine in a classic rock or Motown setting, but if you listen carefully, you'll hear more definition and more modern clarity than even say a Fralin P pickup. Also, when I'm playing Jack Bruce type material, with a little bit (or more) of overdrive, the Sadowsky P is tops.

    I've mentioned before on the board that if you PM me your email addy, I'll send some professionally recorded samples of my Sad PJ. These are projects of singer/songwriter/bands I've been hired to work with in the studio for demos or record releases, so don't blame or praise me for the songs, I was just a hired gun!
  9. Biker4Him

    Biker4Him Guest

    Apr 4, 2003
    Yukon, OK. USA
    Daggummit Tom.... everywhere I'm looking, every piece of gear I'm after.. there you are!!! You must be an absolute genius to always be thinkin like me!!!;)

    Gotta find me a PJ....

    MAJOR METAL The Beagle Father Supporting Member

    So you got bit by the Sadowsky Bug , I FEEL your Pain ;) :p , go for it. :bassist:
  11. 5bassman


    May 4, 2005
    Anymore input?
  12. simongpaez

    simongpaez Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 28, 2005
    The Woodlands , Texas
    Each one is different I have both they really are, specially because my P/J has a P neck 1.75 nut and the feel is completely different ,so is the sound. , P/J are kind of hard to find used , there are but I havent seen much and a new one will be around 6 to 8 months in the making, so good luck.
    I saw a P/J P body on accesbass , dont know if its still avaliable.
  13. adrian garcia

    adrian garcia In Memoriam

    Apr 9, 2001
    las vegas. nevada
    Endorsing Artist: Nordy Basses, Schroeder Cabs, Gallien Krueger Amps
    i have played Sads with jj's and i am selling a pj for a friend. the difference is quite noticable- the pj has a great punchy fingerstyle tone, but it does not have the Fender on steroids slap tone. It is not as open, but tigher when you slap- two sompletely difefrent animals