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SansAmp Bass Driver DI

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Chicken Steve, Dec 12, 2017.


  1. Chicken Steve

    Chicken Steve

    Apr 1, 2014
    Apologies if this has been posted already , it's such a huge and diverse forum , i'm often lost visiting......

    So my drummer sez this might be cool to play with>>>



    For me, who has always played clean, it'd be a bold step

    What do you think?

    ~CS~
     
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  2. pglaser01

    pglaser01

    Mar 19, 2013
    St. Louis, MO
    If only I were that good....
    What's the purpose you want it for? A preamp or a DI box?

    Playing clean won't be really affected by a preamp unless you crank the gain knob on that
     
  3. Chicken Steve

    Chicken Steve

    Apr 1, 2014
    Other than a set of knobs that make my sound different, i guess it would just be an enhanced DI for me ~CS~
     
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  4. every bass player should have one, or the Para Driver DI (which is what I have)
    in my last band I turned up to the recording studio, the engineer saw it and said "that's my job done then", and any gig where I can't use my own amp I pull this out of the bag and ask the sound engineer to DI it and boom, I have the perfect tone and the sound people love it too. no mics, and they know that the signal they're getting is what they should be getting
     
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  5. NoiseNinja

    NoiseNinja Experimental-psychedelic-ambient-noise-drone

    Feb 23, 2011
    Denmark
    Just be aware that the original first version of the Tech 21 Bass Driver D.I. that is displayed in that video you link to do not have a mid control, and further more it has a baked in rather notable mid scoop, which means if you like your bass tone with scooped out mids, then it might be for you, if you enjoy a bass tone, like me, with fairly present punchy mids, then it is definitely not the pedal for you and you should look for other bass preamp pedal options, like for instance the second version of that pedal Tech 21 Bass Driver D.I. V2.

    Also you should consider weather you really have any use for a preamp pedal in the first place.

    If you do already enjoy the tone you get from your bass and amp and have no needs to spice it up, or you don't need having the possibility for an additional extra tone option at your disposal, eventual with a bit of grid in it to your liking, then there is absolutely no reason to invest in a preamp pedal.
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2017
  6. Chicken Steve

    Chicken Steve

    Apr 1, 2014
    I would only say that ,even after decades at this, i'm still looking for that tone. Personally i don't like tinny or plucky , i like a beefy low end that comes outta the furniture. Does a pedal get me there? I seriously don't know.....~CS~
     
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  7. Or you could use an eq-pedal to spice it up.
     
  8. Fiset

    Fiset I do a good impression of myself

    Jan 13, 2007
    New York
    Just so there's no confusion, the pedal in the video is not the Paradriver, it's the Bass Driver. While Version 2 of the Bass Driver does add mid control, the Paradriver has always had it.
     
  9. NoiseNinja

    NoiseNinja Experimental-psychedelic-ambient-noise-drone

    Feb 23, 2011
    Denmark
    Right, sorry, I did of course mean Bass Driver, somehow I got the names mixed up.

    I'll go ahead and correct that in my original post, just so there are no confusion or misunderstandings about it.

    Thanks for pointing out.
     
  10. Jay Corwin

    Jay Corwin Supporting Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    Sanborn, NY
    I've used the original BDDI, the VT, and now I use the ParaDriver for upright bass. All great, versatile products with great DI's.
     
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  11. I think you get a very useable tone out of the SABDDI. I certainly wouldn't use it as a cool tone tweaking tool. I bought mine for live DI, and also as a preamp for driving power amps directly - I used to gig in a situation where a new gig meant a new (and strange) bass amp. With the Sansamp I could always get a useable sound quickly.
     
  12. Zooberwerx

    Zooberwerx Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 21, 2002
    Virginia Beach, VA
    For those who own a conventional BDDI (no mid control): take a piece of masking tape, write "Mids" on it, and place over top "Level". You now have a 3 band pedal which can be balanced for tone and output. The controls are not intuitive...IOW, 12:00 is not flat. Use your ears and kick the pedal in & out to compare the affected and dry characters.

    Riis
     
  13. Chicken Steve

    Chicken Steve

    Apr 1, 2014
    wutz a BDDI......? ~CS~??
     
  14. Zooberwerx

    Zooberwerx Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 21, 2002
    Virginia Beach, VA
    Bass Driver DI (Tech 21 SansAmp).

    Riis
     
  15. songwriter21

    songwriter21 I have an obsession for wood. The musical kind. Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2005
    Sponsored by Hipshot
    To this day, I don't understand the fuss/hype regarding the Bass Driver, or VT pedals. I tried the first three times, not only because I got a discount working at a music shop, but just because I wanted to like it. Every time, at least with the original version, the tone sucked, at least for me. Like others have said, it was way too scooped, with just being clacky and boomy. The last time I used it, it actually started smoking...no thanks. I later, actually many years later, tried the DI V2. It sounded great at home, like the Bass Driver, and even the V2 royally sucked live...still too scooped, even with mid, frequency, drive, etc. These pedals just are voiced in a way that sounds like a blanket is over my sound. I went back to my GK head's sound, and all was good again.

    There are many, many pedals, in my opinion, that bury Sans Amp stuff...Aguilar Tone Hammer (could get tones akin to my amp head) Darkglass Vintage Ultra Bass (currently using, and is sweeeet), and an absolute little gem of a pedal that I'll never get rid of, the Zoom MS60B. Yes, for $99 (cheaper than the BD), the Zoom basically has everything (except a di), and the amp and eq choices are mind-boggling and fantastic. There's also a firmware update that includes a bazillion more choices now, too. It's extremely flexible. You'd think I was paid by Zoom, but no, it's just that good of a pedal.

    How's this for an ultra-compact rig that kicked royal butt at even big shows?

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    You just need a good little di to go with the Zoom.

    Zoom MS-60B Multistomp Bass Effects Pedal
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2017
  16. jaymelewis

    jaymelewis

    Jan 6, 2010
    Fillmore, CA
    It's a great box, a lot of houses have them as their main bass DI's (I've never owned one but I've used them many times at different gigs because that's what they had). If you're looking for a cool utility preamp with some OD built in I say go for it :)
     
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  17. father of fires

    father of fires Commercial User

    Nov 29, 2006
    BALTIMORE CITY
    Chief of Medicine at Damnation Audio
    It's a useful tool but we can't tell you if you'll like it if you don't know what you want.

    My advice is to order one from a place with a good return policy and don't pass judgment until you've played it in the mix with your band.
     
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  18. el murdoque

    el murdoque

    Mar 10, 2013
    Germany
    I have the programmable version and this feels so much more like a tool than a toy.
    The moment I put it on my board was the moment I started getting praise for my tone on FOH from fellow musicians.
    Every knob just seems to have the gigging bass player in mind. No BS, no nonsense, Just the plain stuff.
    I love that pedal.
     
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  19. mattattack187

    mattattack187 Bass Enthusiast Supporting Member

    Feb 2, 2012
    Ellsworth, ME
    That's true to a point. It all depends on how you use it. If you crank the blend and boost the bass, treble and presence content then yeah...mid scoop. By cutting the Bass & Treble you're essentially bringing in more mid range. I've found that by running the Blend at noon, Bass & Treble at 10 o'clock and using the drive and presence to the point of achieving break up when I dig in, the mid range is present and I can hear myself fine in a mix/live setting.

    The BDDI is one of those misunderstood pedals. If you really take the time to learn how to use it then you can achieve many great tones.
     
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  20. scuzzy

    scuzzy

    Feb 15, 2006
    Troy, MO
    It's always on for me. I have 6 very distinct settings I've set up on it. 4 get used all the time, all 6 are used at some point. The mids are not missing at all with my sound. I use the rack head too, and typically only run a 50/50 blend though. If I go a full wet sansamp signal, it can get pretty scooped.

    It's not the greatest tool ever, but it's tried and true gear.
     
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