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Saturn Ion?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by marineman227, Oct 13, 2004.


  1. I'm looking at getting a saturn ion for my next vehicle but i'm not sure yet. I'm looking for a 4 door nice little car that gets good gas mileage and has a somewhat sporty appearance. The biggest thing however with my new car is i want it to be able to fit my bass gear in it. I know pretty much any car you can pack stuff in but anyone that owns one or has experience loading one do you think i'd be able to fit an average 4x10 cab, a small case with a pre/power amp setup in it and my bass with all the little things that you need to bring to a gig in the trunk? Right now i have a ford escort zx2 and can barely fit my ampeg ba112 combo amp in the trunk and i need to put my bass in the passenger seat. Thanks, sorry if it got lengthy
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  2. DigMe

    DigMe

    Aug 10, 2002
    Waco, TX
    Most Saturn owners will rabidly defend the product but last I saw Saturns were getting pretty poor reliability ratings across the board. Just thought you should know.

    brad cook
     
  3. Thanks for the info, i'll expand it and say the choices i'm tossing around now are the saturn ion, a mitsubishi lancer, both of which would be brand new, otherwise a year or two old used toyota camry or nissan maxima are my top choices unless anyone has any other great ideas for a car between 10 and 15ish thousand will fairly low miles and all the other criteria i listed.
     
  4. malthumb

    malthumb

    Mar 25, 2001
    The Motor City
    Marineman,

    You have a PM.

    To address the Saturn reliability issue.....The data would be based on the long term reliability of Saturns produced 3 - 5 years ago, depending on which survey you're looking at. The Saturn ION is a completely different vehicle from the Saturn Coupes and Sedans produced up until last year.

    It would be difficult to predict reliability of today's vehicle out to 3 - 5 years from now, but one indicator is that today's cars have better initial quality than the cars they replaced.

    Peace,

    James
     
  5. vbass

    vbass

    May 7, 2004
    Bay Area, CA
    Well, all I can really talk from is experience with my vehicle. I have an '01 saturn sedan. I can fit 2 15" speaker cabs, my rack, and my 2 basses with a little finagling. I've been happy so far with the reliability as well, no problems AT ALL. I bought the saturn after having a '98 accord that just gave me problem after problem (though I think that was more specific to the car that I had vs. the model). If the car continues to run as well as it has been, my next purchase will probably be a saturn as well.
     
  6. Just wondering anyone that has ever driven an Ion are they real loud on the road? I have to drive about 95 miles every day to work which is about an hour and a half on the highway so i don't really want another loud car because my escort has got to be the loudest car known to man and i'd like to drive in peace and not need to have the radio all the way up in order to hear it. Thanks
     
  7. Philbiker

    Philbiker Pat's the best!

    Dec 28, 2000
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Most of the small car-based SUVs are good haulers that get relatively good mileage. Competitors are the Honda CR-V, Toyota RAV-4, various Korean models, and the cream of the crop IMO is the Subaru Forester. They are all worth a look.

    I recently was in the market for a car like this, I was leaning towards the Forester. Then I took a look at the Legacy wagon, and was won over. If you have a local Subaru dealer, see if they have a holdover 2004 Legacy station wagon, they are selling for well under invoice now that the sexy 2005s are out. The cargo area of a station wagon like this is much more utilitarian for a bass player, you can fit the long instrument in much better than a small SUV where you would beforced to fold down the seat. Also the car is much more comfortable and rides much better.
     
  8. Agreed. I was looking at the Subarus as well, and also the Pontiac Vibe. The Vibe is the domestic sibling of the Toyota Matrix. Same car, different skin. A tad cheaper, but then again, though I don't get it, it depreciates faster than the toyota version.
     
  9. malthumb

    malthumb

    Mar 25, 2001
    The Motor City

    Brand equity. Toyota rates higher in the average consumer's mind than does Pontiac. People will pay more for the same product if it has a name that is better thought of. Many car buyers assume that if a domestic car manufacturer (Pontiac) and a Japanese manufacturer (Toyota) make the same product, the Japanese product has to be better.

    Peace,

    James
     
  10. Yeah, that's what I figured.

    Lemmie ask this hypothetical question, as it's quasi-based on rumor:

    IF i were to buy a Matrix version, and needed to do a repair myself, if I asked for a replacement part (like an alternator, for instance) would I get it cheaper if I asked for the pontiac version?

    SHOULD be the same part, yes?

    The reason I ask is when I had a Buick Regal (GM early 80's g-unit chassis) I was told to get the monte carlo version alternator, as I'd get it cheaper...same motor...I ended up having the work done, so I didn't find out.


    Am I rambling here?
     
  11. DigMe

    DigMe

    Aug 10, 2002
    Waco, TX
    Also, Pontiac has an absolutely WRETCHED reliability history while Toyota's is generally very good.

    brad cook
     
  12. C'mon! Pontiac is GM's PERFORMANCE division :smug:


    serious tho, I'd feel better about the Vibe, as it is the same powertrain, supplied by Toyota...same chassis too, so....
     
  13. Philbiker

    Philbiker Pat's the best!

    Dec 28, 2000
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Definitely makes the Vibe a much better used car to buy, since it will generally be lower priced.

    Personally I think the Vibe has much better looking bodywork than the Matrix.
     
  14. As do I. the most attractive Pontiac offering in quite a while.

    Shame about that GTO.... YAWN.

    The Matrix looks way too "boy-racer"...
     
  15. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    You might consider grabbing yourself a copy of "Consumer Reports" (the mag that doesn't accept ads) and looking for their Best Buys where they rate all the new cars.

    It's not foolproof by any means, IME, but it certainly is a leg up over the marketing hype. Personally, I like to buy a hard copy of that single issue of the mag at a bookstore instead of paying for a subscription at http://www.consumerreports.org/main...ASSORTMENT<>ast_id=333137&bmUID=1097857518673.
     
  16. malthumb

    malthumb

    Mar 25, 2001
    The Motor City

    Said the urologist to the octagenarian..."Depends"

    Car dealers are independent businesses. When they make sales of parts outside of warranty they can charge whatever the market will bear.

    In the Regal / Monte Carlo example, depending on trim and option level there could be SIGNIFICANT differences. For example, some of the Monte Carlo had the Camaro 5.0L V8. The Regal had a 5.0L V8, but it wasn't the same one as in the Monte. Some years they also had different V6 engines.

    Peace,

    James