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SBL: Moving Pictures Analysis

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by Dr. Cheese, May 2, 2021.


  1. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis



    Scott struck gold when he started working with this dude.
     
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  2. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    The analysis of Geddy’s playing is a great affirmation of it’s how you do it, not what you do it with when it comes to playing bass. Dude just had great ideas that he executed perfectly.
     
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  3. IanAllison

    IanAllison Supporting Member

    May 27, 2006
    Minneapolis
    Cheers Doc!
     
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  4. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    You did a great job.
     
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  5. spufman

    spufman

    Feb 7, 2005
    Central CT
    That was really great, thanks!
     
  6. lowdownthump

    lowdownthump

    Jul 17, 2004
    Enjoyed it!!
     
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  7. MonetBass

    MonetBass ♪ Just listen ♫ Supporting Member

    Sep 15, 2006
    Tulsa, OK
    Good stuff! Although his using the term "flat 5" instead of tri-tone ("YYZ") irked me a little, I got over it. :D
     
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  8. beggar98

    beggar98

    Jan 23, 2007
    Los Angeles, CA
    I think "flat 5" is much more common today, and more easily understood by people with less formal education. Perhaps another video idea would be to go over the different names for various intervals?

     
  9. Great! I done learned me things.
     
  10. rashrader

    rashrader

    Mar 4, 2004
    Baltimore, MD
    I borrowed Permanent Waves from my Sister when I was 10 years old and I was hooked. Sheesh, I remember waiting for this album to come out. Geddy truly is the reason I play bass. This video is awesome, Doc. Thanks for sharing!!!
     
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  11. Esteban Garcia

    Esteban Garcia bassist, arranger, aelurophile Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2018
    Portland, OR
    12-year-old me was waaaaaayyyy off trying to figure out Geddy's bass lines :roflmao:
     
  12. Altitude

    Altitude An ounce of perception, a pound of obscure. Supporting Member

    Mar 9, 2005
    Denver, nee Austin
    In my mind, I think "flat 5" when it's a note intended to eke a bluesy feel out of a lick. I think "tri-tone" when I'm playing the same note with the goal of it sounding obnoxious.

    That might just be me, but it sounds obnoxious in YYZ, so it does fit.
     
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  13. Smooth_bass88

    Smooth_bass88 vaxx! Supporting Member

    Oct 31, 2006
    North AMERICA, USA
    He's playing A LOT of stuff incorrectly. Yyz especially. Like totally wrong. Be so much better if he used standard notation instead of tab.
     
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  14. svlilioukalani

    svlilioukalani Supporting Member

    Sep 19, 2012
    Seattle, Wa
    That's cool. Thanks for posting.
     
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  15. Esteban Garcia

    Esteban Garcia bassist, arranger, aelurophile Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2018
    Portland, OR
    I'm more irked he said "Y-Y-Zee" and not "Y-Y-Zed" :laugh:
     
  16. Smooth_bass88

    Smooth_bass88 vaxx! Supporting Member

    Oct 31, 2006
    North AMERICA, USA
    It should be noted that in addition to hitting the strings very hard with his right hand fingers, Ged always used bright, brand-new roundwound strings (Rotosound perhaps?), possibility even light gauge, and very low action. Another hallmark of the Moving Pictures bass tone is the use of compression. You can hear it very clearly on the isolated Tom Sawyer bass track. Listen to how those notes seem to sustain forever. It's likely some sort of tube driven compressor dialed in to bring out certain frequencies in order to get that unmistakable "growl".
     
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  17. I just recorded limelight with my band in our home covid-friendly solo studios!

    Great analysis in that video, and really EXCEPTIONAL playing on the geddy lines. And tone... I use a custom patch I built myself on my helix for his stuff that's similar to his own way, but with my own thing in it..... but yours is pretty much textbook sounding to me! VERY nice.
     
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  18. I’ve watched it three times since Saturday. Great job Ian.
    I’ll be using the HX Stomp settings too.
     
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  19. When talking with other musicians, it's good to know that "Flat 5" actually means something in music.

    In music theory, with this particular term being colloquial and coming from jazz most commonly, the term means playing an interval of a 5th (like playing a fifth higher than the first note, so playing 2 frets higher and one string higher pitch (thinner string) than the first note you played on the bass), but the unique thing about a flat thing is that you play the fifth "flat", in other words a semi tone lower. So one string pitch higher, and one fret higher, interval.

    In correct theory, the term is "diminished fifth". In jazz, cuz jazz cats are cooler and also it's way faster to say, they call it a flat 5.

    That being said, your use of the term in your head is cool.... just don't forget to translate that to other musicians who, possibly, might know the technical meaning also and get confused LoL :)
     
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  20. Ah, I see the discussion already came up... I didn't even mention tritone... which is what I was taught in jazz class as a reference so I'd know what the heck a flat five was (not a joke there.. it was a real class).
     
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