I found this talkbass forum when I was brand new and having some huge struggles. You might all remember my great struggle to figure out how to hold the bass. I dealt with a really rude teacher who wanted me to play with my wrist all jacked up and it almost made me quit. But I hung in there, because I really love to play. Some really great folks on here gave me some priceless advice, and I couldn't believe the overwhelming support. One of those pieces of advice was to check out Scott's bass lessons. So I did just that. And I have to say, the video lessons were actually pretty good and I learned a lot from them. After the first two courses things went from beginner to intermediate, so I wasn't sure how to proceed from there, until .... I found out they were having a Challenge where you got to study a piece of music and then transcribe it. And while I am still a novice I thought this would be fun since I have a pretty good ear for figuring out notes, but I could use some directed learning in actually transcribing. So I picked a pop song with a nice repetitive bass line that I thought wouldn't be too hard to learn. I especially wanted to do well because I had been practicing with a cool young man on there who didn't even own a bass! The prize for the challenge was a bass guitar, so I figured maybe I could blow the Admin away and win this guy a bass so he wouldn't have to borrow it from his brother all the time. I know it was a long shot, but I had to try! I put my all into that challenge. It took me well over 30 hours all in all. It was actually the first piece I ever played from beginning to end. I got pretty sick near the end so I didn't get as much practice time in as I wanted to, but I could play it pretty well, just not at 100% of the original tempo. I'd be lying if I didn't say that I was pretty proud that at six weeks into my learning that I was able to transcribe a piece by ear, even an easy piece. I even spent hours researching the bassist in my piece, what kind of gear he used. I took this whole thing really seriously. I even put in the time to figure out what strings he was using and why. Then, came the time to post our final product. While everyone else was commenting on the actual phrasing or dynamics of each others pieces, all anyone could do is pick apart my technique, which I have been working on so much. I saw all sorts of creative technique that was no where near perfect on other peoples videos, but no one said a word about it. While I am aware of what I need to do to have perfect bass hands, sometimes when I am really into things my hands are less than perfect. I'm not the only one this happens to, and I know it. Even worse, no one commented anything about my actual piece except to say I should have jumped a string instead of shifting my hand for one note. One person even stated that if I keep practicing I'll be able to play-someday. How rude! It wouldn't have been so bad, except there is a part of the forum where people can critique your techniques, and I posted in there plenty. I honestly thought this was going to be about my learning the piece, and nuances in the transcribing that I might have missed, but I guess I suck so bad that no one could even hear the song because my thumb on my plucking hand wasn't perpendicular. My technique is still a work in progress, but I don't have flying fingers so much anymore. I practice my permutations for a minimum of half an hour every day. I'm using my pinky!!! My frets buzz a little less every day. I know not to quit my day job as well! I've come so far from this point here - Very new, and upset. Please help if you can. Now, I'm all the way here... I know, there is some string bending and some other issues I'm working on...I'm not perfect yet. It's only been six weeks! But I know what I need to work on and if I wait until I am perfect to actually play the bass, I'll never get to play it at all. I can't just do exercises all day...I need to enjoy myself as well, or why do this? Anyways. I don't recommend what I just went through to anyone. They also advertised the services at 14 dollars a month, or 168 dollars annually, and when I got my credit card bill with the exchange (Canadian here) the service was well over $200 dollars, which seems like a lot of money to watch a few videos and post in a forum only the Admin ever answers anyways. So...I guess I'm here from now on. I have no plans on quitting the bass just because I'm not perfect six weeks into learning. Actually, I'm going to practice even more. Not only that, but I'm going to find a teacher who is patient with me. Just like a baby, I'm going to keep trying to walk and someday I will be able to run with it. So, I'd highly recommend Scott's Bass Lessons if you already have great skills and great technique. Also, they don't let you join without giving your credit card number, and when you view it as new member they quote the price monthly and then quote it yearly when you join. It's a little slimy.