Scale length for 5-string tuned E to high c?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by focusbob, Nov 22, 2020.

  1. 28.6"

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  2. 30"

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  3. 32"

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  4. 34"

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  5. 35", multiscale, other (please comment)

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  1. focusbob

    focusbob

    Jan 28, 2019
    I'd like to get an inexpensive 5-string bass for EADGC tuning (i.e., high c instead of low B). Having a bit of option paralysis, though, as there are viable options in the $200-$300 bracket ranging in scale length from 28.6" (ibanez mikro) to 34" (with 30", talman, and 32", mezzo, in between). For folks who play in this tuning, I was wondering which scale length you prefer and why?
     
  2. Aidil

    Aidil

    Dec 4, 2014
    Jkt, IDN
    Strings for the high-C are relatively limited in options (compared to the BEADG). A problem I've been having with the high-C on my current 35" and previous few 34"s is the tonality which is rather thin/tend to sound twangy. I've used as low as .028 and most others are .032 gauge for the high-C.

    Then not until I got my first multi-scale bass, which high-C is 33.6" scale, I realized using the typical .032 gauge on shorter than typical 34"/35" scale would thicken the tone and would make the high-C nicer sounding.

    My point is, get a shorter than typical 34/35" scale for the high-C and it doesn't have to be a multi-scale bass. Amongst the options, probably the SR Mezzo or the TMB35 will do the job nicely.
     
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  3. ShadowGroover

    ShadowGroover

    Aug 16, 2020
    Simply look to your 6-string electric bass compatriots for the answer.

    Consider the gauges in their string choices, and then realize that in just about every 6 there resides a 5-string configuration identical to your inquiry, assuming that B is the lowest tonality.

    Remove the B from the 6-string equation to reveal the solution.

    I chose 35" scale in the poll. You have a good marketability chance if you abandon your 5E quest and revert back to low B. Of the many basses I have tried, 35 scale sounds best up and down the neck according to my ear.

    Personally, if I had to have high C in a short scale, I'd just go for a 6-string electric guitar, 25 inch scale, and produce low notes with a synth interface and/or 8va pedal : )
     
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  4. focusbob

    focusbob

    Jan 28, 2019
    I'm not sure I agree...

    Assuming a single scale length for all strings, a 6 string bass must balance between the optimal scale lengths for the low B and the high c, making the resulting scale length a compromise that is not ideal for either extreme.

    I'm hoping to learn from others' experience, with the tuning range from low E to high c, what they feel the best compromise scale length to be?

    Or, maybe I misunderstood your post?
     
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  5. focusbob

    focusbob

    Jan 28, 2019
    Thanks! I have been going between sub-34" options (non-multiscale) as my preference. I have a mezzo 4 string which I like, I also have a 30" 4 string (dano longhorn) which I like a lot (along with a handful of 34-35" scale basses). I guess I'm still hanging on to the thought of a mikro (28.6" scale lenth) because I don't have one. But, that doesn't make it "ideal" for 5 string high c tuning. I guess the key question there would be, how does the low E sound (but that sounds like a separate post that probably exists ;) )?
     
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  6. Aidil

    Aidil

    Dec 4, 2014
    Jkt, IDN
    I'm pretty sure the Mikro 5 would also perform well tuned in E to C. But, you'll get somewhat more limited string choices with the Mikro, especially with the E to C tuning, at least when compared to the SR Mezzo 5 which in certain cases could get away with standard long scale strings if no particular medium scale strings could be found.
     
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  7. focusbob

    focusbob

    Jan 28, 2019
    It's difficult to choose one without being able to try either... I have a 4 string mezzo, so that's a pretty known quantity. But I've never tried a Mikro.
     
  8. Gsnorgathon

    Gsnorgathon

    Jan 15, 2020
    Sea Addle
    Based on my experience with 35" vs 34" 6-strings, the C can be kinda zangy on the 35". I'd lean toward multi-scale or 34" or shorter for a non-excessively-zangy C.
     
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