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Schaller BML light weight tuners?

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by Phil Mastro, Jan 6, 2007.

  1. Phil Mastro

    Phil Mastro

    Nov 18, 2004
    Hey guys,

    I'm looking to buy some tuners, in black preferably, and I came upon the warmoth page about tuners containing Schaller BML light weight tuners. I tried searching around, and I couldn't find any threads about them. Are they any good? From their explanation, a set (I suppose 4 tuners) weigh 8 ounces, which is 227 grams. 4 Ultalites are supposedly 188 grams.

    Any opinions?

  2. tjclem

    tjclem Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jun 6, 2004
    Central Florida
    Owner and builder Clementbass
    I haven't tried them the Spertzels are lighter than the Hipshots though.....t
  3. Angus

    Angus Supporting Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Palo Alto, CA
    Was it a set of the 1/2" post Hipshot ultralites that were 188 grams (47 grams a piece)? Because the 3/8" ones I have in front of me are 42g a piece, or 168g total. These are black.

    For what it's worth, I also have a set of black Sperzel's in front of me that are 40g a piece. Only 2g difference. I haven't tried Sperzel's new ultralite design, though.

    From the sounds of it, the Schaller light weight ones aren't much different from standard 3/8" post tuners (70g a piece, in black). If it's the 1/2" post you are talking about, then I'm not sure if that's in line with other light weight tuners or not. Sounds heavy, though.

    I have a set of 1/2" post Hipshots with clover heads (like for Fenders, etc) that'll be here monday, so I'll weigh those.

    I haven't ever tried their bass tuners, but their guitar tuners have always worked well for me. I have a set I'm putting into a bass I'm converting to an 8 string. Can't say much about the bass ones, though.
  4. Angus

    Angus Supporting Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Palo Alto, CA
    Survey says....damn! The 1/2" post Hipshot ultralites (in satin silver) with clover key weigh 54g. Much heavier!! Only a few grams lighter than the Schallers.
  5. Musiclogic

    Musiclogic Commercial User

    Aug 6, 2005
    Southwest Michigan
    Owner/Builder: HJC Customs USA, The Cool Lute, C G O
    Th Schaller BML tuners are great tuners. Very durable, nice easy turn, all around one of my favorites.
  6. Tdog


    May 18, 2004
    The Schallers are excellent tuners. I used a set on the last P-Bass that I built. Their light weight comes from the fact that Schaller uses a plastic gear housing.
  7. Phil Mastro

    Phil Mastro

    Nov 18, 2004
    Thanks guys, I'll be buying a set of Schallers cuz they're noticeably cheaper than ultralites, and lighter than standard Gotohs and such.
  8. playthatthang


    Oct 6, 2015
    great thread. thank you for the information. i'm buying a set of these today.
  9. Scoops

    Scoops Why do we use base 10 when we only have 8 fingers Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 22, 2013
    Sugar Creek, Wisc
    I am me
    I really like these tuners. They are smoother in operation that any Hipshot product

    You have to be a bit careful with the Schallers though. They have locator pins on the base that extend into the headstock. If you are looking to use them as a replacement, you will have to drill the 8 holes (2 for each tuner) to account for the pins. Take a look at the Warmoth 32" necks. >>>>This shows what I'm talking about Warmoth Custom Guitar Products - Short Scale

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