School me on Muff-based fuzzes

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Bengals, Dec 17, 2014.

  1. Bengals


    Jul 6, 2010
    I'm looking to replace my current EHX bass Big Muff, I really like the old shool sound of the original Russian Muffs and wanted to get some recommendations. Browsing sound clips is nice but I'm concerned about practical use in a band setting.
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  2. mmbongo

    mmbongo I have too many basses. Supporting Member

    Stomp Under Foot Civil War
    Wren & Cuff Box Of War

    Either one of those and you're done. You won't find better Muff pedals. Oddly enough, the EHX Big Bass Muff is one of the worst sounding fuzz pedals you can get....and they are the ones who make the classic Muff that everyone is cloning! The Bass Big Muff sounds nothing like a classic Muff...mind boggling, isn't it?

    Anyway, both Stomp Under Foot and Wren & Cuff almost to a point of obsession went to great lengths to make their pedals sound like the classic Russian Muff's. I currently use the Civil War and I've had a Box Of War in the past. I'd be happy with either, but the BOW costs a little more and takes up more board space.
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  3. bassmusic17


    Jan 15, 2011
    Also can't just take one opinion as absolution. They are great muffs and there are a lot more great ones out there too.
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  4. mmbongo

    mmbongo I have too many basses. Supporting Member

    This is true!

    Earthquaker Hoof
    MojoHand BMP-1
    Fuzzrocious Grey Stache
    Blackout Musket
    DMB Bumble
    Wren & Cuff Tall Font Russian
    Blackarts LSTR & Pharoh

    And tons of others. All great pedals worth checking out. Heck do like I them all and keep the one that nails the tone you're looking for.
  5. johnk_10

    johnk_10 vintage bass nut Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 16, 2008
    Washington, Utah
    John K Custom Basses
    a few more muff based pedals:

    Earthbound Audio SuperCollider
    Way Huge Swollen Pickle
    BlackArts Pharaoh
    Catalinbread Manx Loagthan
    MojoHand Iron Bell
    Cornish G2
    Frantone The Sweet
    Skreddy P19
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  6. nshuman


    Sep 4, 2012
    Also, if you want a relatively cheap modern clone of a muff, Vick audio in the US and North Effects in the UK make a few variants. Those are cheaper than the Stomp Under Foot pedals if you are on a tight budget.
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  7. Bengals


    Jul 6, 2010
    I really liked how the Tall Font Russian sounded. And the simple three knob controls, should I worry about being buried in the mix without a clean blend or mid control?
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2014
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  8. I did not know the DMB Bumble was a Muff clone! So another thing to consider is the differences between these pedals. I just picked up a DMB and it is quite different from my Swollen Pickle. Both are good pedals. I think the DMB is a bit more versatile, but the SP can really bring the house down if used at the right spot.
  9. Dave W

    Dave W

    Mar 1, 2007
    Westchester, NY
    I love my Blackout Musket. It's essentially a modded Civil War Muff.
  10. bassmusic17


    Jan 15, 2011
    Couple more muffs:

    Dwarfcraft Eau Claire Thunder
    Actual older EHX Russian Muffs
    Tym Big Mudd
    SS/BS TAFM (not exactly a muff but still a good fuzz that can do muffy)
  11. mmbongo

    mmbongo I have too many basses. Supporting Member

    This is one reason why the Stomp Under Foot Civil War won out for's like a Tall Font Russian but not 'muffled' sounding for lack of a better description :)
    Basically it's got the low end creaminess, but much clearer and open sounding in the mids.
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  12. mmbongo

    mmbongo I have too many basses. Supporting Member

    I don't know the particulars of the circuit on the Bumble, but it can do the Muff thing for sure. It's a great pedal.

    Here's where I did a head to head on the W&C Box of War vs. the DMB Bumble..good luck telling them apart :)
  13. +1 on TAFM. It's not a muff, but it is extremely versatile and can cover a lot of the same ground. It's one of those pedals that's hard to dial in a bad sound in my experience. For instance, I will reach down and tweak my TAFM live, which I would never do with my Swollen Pickle, except for the volume. The SP is just too twitchy, too many "wall of fuzz but the punch & definition are gone" settings in it.
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  14. Coughdrops

    Coughdrops Supporting Member

    Apr 29, 2008
    South Florida
    For the band setting I like the Musket the best. I owned a Wren and Cuff Tall Font and loved it but found it harder to deal with live. Many people on here have the same thought given the inherent scoop to the muff sound. Musket allows you to sculpt a bit more to make it work live. I also have a Mojohand Colussus which is much the same idea. There's also something like 9 million other clones, some mentioned above. You may have to flip through a few to find one you truly like. Thankfully the classifieds are great for that.
  15. strictlybass_ic

    strictlybass_ic Mediocrity is a journey

    Jan 9, 2014
    Northern Indiana
    I've tried several different fuzz boxes (including TAFM, Mammoth, Bass Big Muff Pi, etc) and sold them all off. The one that survived: Mooer Triangle Buff (based on triangle big muff of old). The price is right, it keeps a huge bottom end, and it sounds great. There's a lot of rather pricey/harder to find suggestions on here and they're great pedals. But this little $70 micro might surprise you.
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  16. cnltb


    May 28, 2005
    ...and your favourite is...?:)
  17. JazzBass212

    JazzBass212 Guest

    Dec 18, 2014
    I really like the Catalinbread Manx Loagthan as well! But the Amptweaker Bass Tight Fuzz Pedal has been getting a lot of my attention recently. I got a discount code for Rogue Guitar shop and couldn't resist. So far, I'm loving it!
  18. Syxz_ML


    Apr 10, 2012
    Los Angeles
    Give the ol' Black Russian a try. Can sometimes be found used on the cheap, and you'll dig it ;)
  19. My favorite muff-based fuzz is the Skreddy Supa Tone, with the Musket coming in a close second. I'm typically drawn to Ram's Head and Civil War based muffs.
  20. Ender_rpm


    Apr 18, 2004
    St. Louis MO
    I've had a Sanford and Sonny Bluebeard since '05, grabbed the newer version with tone bypass last fall, can't say enough good things about them. MAYBE would like a wet/dry mix, but thats not even close to necessary.
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