I brought my friend to my favorite music store (Rock City Guitar) in Sommerville, MA (Boston area) yesterday to buy an amp. I saw this Dean 12 string bass. I picked it up and tried it. This thing sounds way cool. I always wanted to check one out. The Hamer 12's were pricy, and I think they were short scale. So I wasn't going to order one without playing. This bass is made real well fit & finish are excellent. It has 2 EMG HZ (Import) pups & active elects., grover pegs, 5 piece maple neck, mahog/maple Carl Thompsonish body. The tone is monsterous! I got it used (Mint) for $450. I can't believe how cool this thing is!!