Serious help needed! Aguilar TH350-500 or Little Mark III?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by mexibass, Apr 12, 2012.

  1. mexibass

    mexibass

    Feb 12, 2012
    Cozumel, México
    Hey guys! Here's the deal: it's really hard to find good gear in Mexico, but now I've found 2 different places where they sell Aguilar and Markbass products. I'm looking to buy a new head, never tried either brand before and I think I'm ready to settle for this kind of equipment. Problem is that the physical stores are located in Mexico City and Puebla, but I live in beautiful Cozumel, and right now I can't make the trip there just to test the amps in person. So I got 2 questions for the community. First, IYO, what head should I buy considering I'm not trying em out before buying? they're more or less the same price (TH500 is the most expensive one). And second, what are ur experiences with either brand/amps?

    I'm more of a fussion player, but right now I'm playing mainly classic rock. I have a PF115 Ampeg cabinet and planning on getting either the super portable Aguilar S112 or the Ampeg PF210... My basses are a MM Stingray and a Ibanez SG fretless. Thnx for ur time!
     
  2. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru..........

    Apr 11, 2006
    Out there!
    I have owned a LM II and a F1, both great amps, but the Tone Hammer 500 I have in place of them is louder cleaner, with a more useful (to me) tone control arrangement. I could never quite dial in what I needed from the two mid controls on the Markbass, the sweep mid control on the Aguilar is great and the frequency range of the sweep is in just the right spectrum to be truly useful to bassists. The Drive feature actually creates a whole different sounding amp, (when I need that kind of tone) overdriven to taste and more midrange complexity along with that, depending on the settings of both the Drive and Gain controls. :)
     
  3. mexibass

    mexibass

    Feb 12, 2012
    Cozumel, México
    Hey Jeff, thnx a lot for the input!!! so, what kind of cabinets have u used with both the Markbass and the Aguilar heads?
     
  4. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru..........

    Apr 11, 2006
    Out there!
    With the Markbass amps I have used Traynor YS-15s with DeltaPro drivers, three different variations (one custom designed/made for me) of Dr. Bass 2-12 cabinets (each of which had totally different brand/models of 12" drivers), LDS 286 and 2126 cabinets (both custom designed/made for me); the Aguilar has been used with an Aguilar DB112, and the two above mentioned LDS cabinets.

    From what I have read here, I would go with the Aguilar cabinets you are considering. :)
     
  5. mexibass

    mexibass

    Feb 12, 2012
    Cozumel, México
    Excellent choice of cabinets!! Well, I guess I'm going with the TH 500 and the super lightweight SL 112 for the cabinet. What do u think about this set up? Do you think it'd be loud enough for a medium size venue with a rock band if I choose the TH 350 instead?? The difference between both heads here is of 3000 pesos, which is like 250 bucks!
     
  6. craig.p

    craig.p

    Sep 28, 2008
    New Hampshire
    Rock band and medium sized room? You asked if you'd be loud enough, which implies you WON'T have PA support for bass. Ok, to me that means a quad of very good 12s at the very least.

    You said you also have a 15. If you mix that 15 with anything that isn't the same, you could wind up hurting yourself rather than helping. Or maybe not. Read the many threads here on mixing non-identical cabs.

    You could use a building block approach: Just keep buying PF cabs as money permits, and you'll eventually get to qty=4, which should handle a medium room with a rock band and no PA support. With this strategy, you're guaranteed your cabs will be compatible with each other.
     
  7. wvbass

    wvbass Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2004
    West Virginia
    And get to a point where you drop below the amp's minimum impedence. This might not be the best advice.
     
  8. mexibass

    mexibass

    Feb 12, 2012
    Cozumel, México
    that's exactly what other guy told me before, get another 115 of the same model... I'm considering it right now, but I think I'm also buying the TH350 or 500 for smaller gigs, along with the SL 112 cabinet... gotta plan my buyings though, coz I can't spend 2000 dollars all of a sudden heheh... thnx for ur advice man!
     
  9. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru..........

    Apr 11, 2006
    Out there!
    There is more to speaker choice beside the size of the driver (12" vs. 15"); the sensitivity, frequency response, maximum SPLs, etc., need to be taken into consideration, as you may well find a 1-12 cabinet to outperform a 1-15 cabinet (for example) depending on all those (and other) variables.
     
  10. dystopiate

    dystopiate

    Feb 21, 2008
    New York City
    Endorsing Artist: Spector, Aguilar
    I think the ToneHammers have a much better variety of tones than the Markbass heads. I have mine matched with a Aguilar DB 810, and it soudns equally amazing through a DB 210. I've also played it through a Schroeder 610, which has a harder to control mid-range tone. Regarding the SL112, I found it to be somewhat less articulate, with less a mid presence than the DB series of cabs.
     
  11. craig.p

    craig.p

    Sep 28, 2008
    New Hampshire
    The building block idea can apply to heads, too. Yeesh. :-\
     
  12. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru..........

    Apr 11, 2006
    Out there!
    I have tried the PF115 and found it to be a rather quiet sounding cabinet (in combination with the PF500 that was attached to it), so even four of them together may not be as loud as some other more modern design cabinets, say a popular (around here) 2-12 design, for example.

    Just going by personal, real world experience, here.
     
  13. mexibass

    mexibass

    Feb 12, 2012
    Cozumel, México
    It appears people favors the Aguilar because it's more tweakable in real life than Markbass, and Elmon just offered a comparison between the th500 and the ampeg PF 500, but I already own the Pf350 and it doesn't give me the power I need thru a PF115 cabinet, so what should i do first? Aguilar sl 112 cab? Th500 head? or another pf115 or pf210 cabs? I need a more robust sound for the venue I play now, but I also need a separate second rig for the occasional traveling, and it's gotta be really portable. Any thoughts?
     
  14. A Stingray sounds great going through a TH500. I was never fond of the LM3 heads, but love my TH. I'd also suggest going for the 500 over the 350. It's not really that much of a price difference. Aguilar cabs are great too, but as others have said, don't go mixing cab, you never know how it'll turn out.
     
  15. mexibass

    mexibass

    Feb 12, 2012
    Cozumel, México
    Thnx man, I'm going to Mexico City to test both the TH500 and the SL112!
     
  16. mexibass

    mexibass

    Feb 12, 2012
    Cozumel, México
    hello everybody, just wanted to say that i got the little mark III and a fender rumble 2x8 cabinet (mainly because of the price) and it sounds amazing!!! and the rumble is as lightweight as the aguilar cab i wanted to buy!! thnk u all for ur help!
     
  17. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru..........

    Apr 11, 2006
    Out there!
    Congrats! Can the Rumble 2-8 cab handle the power of the amp?
     
  18. mexibass

    mexibass

    Feb 12, 2012
    Cozumel, México
    Hey Jeff, thanks man!! yeah, they get along very well... actually i'm thinking of getting the 1x12 as well! I didn't know these even existed! I've been running my 2x8 and my shiny LMII together without a problem... and it's true that maybe tone wise the aguilar head had more options than the littlemark but in the end I think u can always obtain ur sound either with ur bass controls or ur preamp the way u want it, actually I rarely touch my amp's knobs when I'm performing live!

    Thank u all for ur time!
     
  19. gillento

    gillento

    Oct 15, 2005
    Luxembourg, Europe
    Nordstrand pickups
    I have played and owned the TH500 and different MB heads (SA450, F1, Momark) with different Aguilar 12" speakers.
    I have always come back to Markbass heads as I have always had problems with the way the Aguilar head's low controls work.
    Right now I am using a MB TA503 (as well as other heads). It has a 4 band semi paramteric eq .... but is dicontinued
     
  20. ...and in the end the P-Bass doesn't give a **** what it's played through... it always sounds nice...