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Set lists written in stone - Help!

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by Alik, May 24, 2018.


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  1. Alik

    Alik

    Apr 13, 2013
    El Paso, TX
    I replied to a CL ad to bass player, and they sent me the set list, classic rock only, "we don't play any of the new stuff" BL said. That's okay with me, but then I asked myself, are we all band members supposed to join a band and play the songs we'd like to play? I suggested adding "Working man" to the list but he said: we have never played Rush.
    Should I join the band and play somebody else's favorite songs?
    :yawn:
    Or am I being _________? (fill in the blank)
    We have set a meet and greet next Saturday morning. All members are 50+ yrs, experienced, I am surely putting that point to discussion.
    Thanks for reading
     
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  2. charlie monroe

    charlie monroe Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2011
    Buffalo, NY
    I'll bet they've been playing these songs since they were on the radio and have no interest in learning anything different or new.
     
  3. Ender_rpm

    Ender_rpm

    Apr 18, 2004
    St. Louis MO
    I'll go with NOPE on that one.
     
  4. gln1955

    gln1955 Supporting Member

    Aug 25, 2014
    Ohio, USA
    Sounds like they play what they play and that's it. Good luck with trying to change that.
     
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  5. TWolf

    TWolf

    Jan 20, 2011
    Georgia
    It's their band and they can play what they want. If I form a band, I am the same way, although I'm willing to listen to input and suggestions as long as they fit within the genre we are trying to play. But in the end it's my call. As far as Rush, I get that too. Rush can be difficult to pull off well and doesn't always go over in a live setting.
     
  6. TWolf

    TWolf

    Jan 20, 2011
    Georgia
    I would also add, that if you are the new guy coming into an established group, don't come in with the attitude of adding "your songs" and changing what they have going on. Give it some time. Integrate yourself into the group and earn the respect of the others so that they will put more value in your input as you go.
     
  7. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    Can you SING that Rush song? The reason I ask is what's the rest of the set list? If it's all Rod Stewart and Skynard, THEY can't sing Rush.


    If YOU can't there's no reason to bring it up.


    Nothing bothers me more at a show than seeing some dipstick who has no business singing a high song either trying to do it or dropping it four whole steps so it sounds nothing like the original.

    Now, if they have a young Robert Plant or Steve Perry on staff, by all means, go for it.

    Geddy Lee is as tough to sing as he is to cop on bass.... maybe even moreso. Trust me. I've done it. Limelight is one of the few I can do vocally. Fly By Night? Fuhgetuhbowdit. Closer to the Heart? Never even tried.
     
  8. Alik

    Alik

    Apr 13, 2013
    El Paso, TX
    At least you're willing to listen for input, BL said the lists looked OK for him. I asked for adding, not replacing songs.
    And yes, I've seen bands reluctant to play Rush tunes. I thought of working man since it's not that difficult, IMHO.
     
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  9. hrodbert696

    hrodbert696 Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Doesn't hurt to meet and talk. But if they have their set list and aren't interested in adding to it, you either play what they play or look for another band. Depends on what your goals are and how strongly you feel about it.
     
  10. mrcbass

    mrcbass

    Jan 14, 2016
    Sacramento, CA
    Doesn't sound like a good fit for you...
     
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  11. Alik

    Alik

    Apr 13, 2013
    El Paso, TX
    Yes, they have a very good singer, so it's possible to add this song. I can do backup vocals and since my register is mid to high, I'll practice that piece at home and do it myself.
     
  12. RustyAxe

    RustyAxe

    Jul 8, 2008
    Connecticut
    Are they actively gigging? If so, maybe they know their audience and aren't gonna be making any drastic changes. If you're getting paid to play you really are playing whatever you get paid for. Period. If that doesn't fit into what you think you want from the experience, then just pass on it. And if you have a problem with, or stereotypical opinions of, players that are 50+, then pass on it. Save everybody the time.
     
  13. sm49341

    sm49341

    May 12, 2013
    Michigan
    It had better be a good set of songs to never add anything fresh. Is list 50 or 60 songs, or a couple hundred. A cpl hundred would give a lot of variety. Cant imagine a rigid group like this having decent gigs if their not willing to do new things. But if they are landing good gigs($1500) at casinos, yea maybe im in for that, but not small late night bars playing that stuff. I’m 50, a third or more of our stuff is in the 2000’s and i have more fun playing the newer stuff myself. Its challenging in different ways.
     
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  14. JoeWPgh

    JoeWPgh

    Dec 21, 2012
    The big question is - How well do they play their set lists? If it's really good and they put a lot of work into, that's one thing. If they are sub mediocre, that's another.
     
  15. Doesn't sound like the right band for you.
     
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  16. Seanto

    Seanto

    Dec 29, 2005
    RVA
    If a band is not already playing some stuff i like, i won't be inclined to join, since i know i am not going to change much in their setlist as the new guy.
     
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  17. jumbodbassman

    jumbodbassman Supporting Member

    Dec 28, 2009
    Stuck in traffic -NY & CT
    Born Again Tubey
    right now its their band. go with the flow. if the chemistry works thats time to discuss new tunes. and for the record most RUSH tunes make musicians happy and no one else. except the few hits. and the vocals are a PITA to cover
     
  18. I couldn’t deal with it. I like to introduce new songs every couple shows. Gets boring playing the same stuff all the time
     
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  19. yodedude2

    yodedude2 Supporting Member

    that band is for me, not you.
     
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  20. cchorney

    cchorney Supporting Member

    Oct 21, 2010
    Meriden, CT
    It doesn't sound like a good fit for the band.
     
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