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Setting up a website. Any tips?

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by Blackbird, Oct 25, 2002.

  1. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    I've been looking at all these services that allow you to register domain names and I realized that once you got that, you're not off the hook.

    How much does it cost per year to have a website with your own domain name and what are the alternatives? Thanks.

    If I do set up a site, can I bug some of you guys for tips on code and stuff? :oops:
  2. jazzbo


    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    I'm glad to hear you're getting your own domain name, and not a geocities... or angelfire... or whatever. Pop-ups are bad!

    I can't give any advice about the technical side, but cosmetically and from a functionality standpoint, the top business sites are usually rated on ease of use and presentation.

    Make sure the site is easy to navigate. I hate having to look for stuff that I know should be there, but I just can't find it.

    Make sure it's clear. No black background with blue font, or anything annoying like that. Choose pleasing colors, (you could easily do some online research on the psychological aspects of different colors, e.g. moods they create, etc.). Also, I hate when I go to a website, get all excited about some link, and then I get a "This part of the website is under construction." I say, don't put the site up til it's finished.

    Proofread. Typos and grammatical problems destroy credibility.

    No counters. They're for you, not me. Just hide it.

    Links to porn? Just wishful thinking. ;)
  3. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    What he said. Remember to play to your target audience.
  4. godoze


    Oct 21, 2002
    i recommend that if you do not already know it that you learn HTML, it is very easy. Maybe learn JavaScript also - it too is fairly easy.

    if you learn these two you will be able to build your site exactly like you want it. if you plan on acceptng forms (sign my guestbook, for instance) you will have to either buy a CGI script or learn one of the many languages to write your own. probably easier to but one.

    Really though, once you learn HTML and maybe JavaScript you can do almost anything you want.
    then you can find a $9.95 a month host and just upload your pages !:)
  5. Hey if you need hosting for it, let me know dude :)
    I'm currently configuring my new webserver, which is scheduled to come online next friday.. it will be connected to a dedicated line ( 2-megabit average with 5-megabit maximum peak )

    It's a Pentium-3 733 Mhz.. 512 megabytes RAM.. 3x 9.1 GB SCSI-U160 (!) FreeBSD 4.7..

    apache / php / mysql / email also available

    How much did this baby cost me ? exactly $ 0.0 ! Gotta love sponsors ! :D :D

    ( It's the top one; the compaq at the bottom is the server of my sponsor :) the switch on top of my server is a Cisco 2900-XL catalyst, in case you were wondering.. )
  6. James Hart

    James Hart

    Feb 1, 2002
    Endorsing Artist: see profile
    my domain costs $15 per year, my hosting costs $10 per month.

    There are better deals out there... but I'm happy with what I've got.

    Jazzbo nails it pretty much but I'll add 3 more things:

    1. Flash can look killer... but 98% of the time it isn't
    2. Embeded Sound files = bad
    3. Animation should be used very sparingly.

    if you want some pointers for the tech end, PM or email me.

    :cool: have fun
  7. James Hart

    James Hart

    Feb 1, 2002
    Endorsing Artist: see profile
    Nice, I've got a Comcrap Rack box w/ Dual PIII 866, 1gb ram and the same drive config sittin here @ my house.

    too bad I had to load Win2k advanced server & MsSQL on it to mirror a client's server to use as a test bed... I had Debian on it before it got volenteered for semi-active duty.

    I WILL have a T1 @ home one of these days :cool:
  8. on the subject of making a website..

    here's the guidelines i used for creating my own website ( www.allodox.nl ) :

    - fast loading
    - sterile code ( NO frontpage ! )
    - simple yet complete
    - no " bla bla " ( no animations, flash, whatever )
    - good navigation
    - fixed coloursceme.
    - static framerwork with dynamic content.

    sterile code = fast loading.... don't use Frontpage.. Frontpage makes godzilla sized pages.. and if you're doing commercial hosting, you have to pay for all the traffic your website pulls.. so you want compact code ( = save $$ ) there are better web-design tools that make compact code. compaq code is fast code.. and fast loading is thy best friend.. if your page is too slow, people won't visit it..too impatient :)

    simple yet complete... my site is very simple, yet everything i want to tell is on it.. don't add too much stuff that people probably won't ever read ( remember.. traffic = $$ ! )

    No " bla bla ".. if you want a professional looking website, don't use animating GIFs.. it increases cheesyness ( people will say " ah man.. " ) and generates useless traffic.. Flash is good, if you use it wisely.. sometimes you see people using flash in a website, that could also have been made in html.

    Good navigation is VERY important.. if people don't know how to get to another page, they won't visit it.. if your site is a puzzle to navigate, people will leave..

    Fixed coloursceme.. also very important.. there's nothing more annoying than a website with a black background ( or with textured background ) and yellow, green, pink, blue, orange and white text on it.. ye gods ! :eek: stick to a single coloursceme.. it will make your site look a lot better.

    I personally made the choice of a static framework with dynamic content.. if you look at my site, every page will have the same appearance, but different content.. the content is fetched from a database and then embedded in the framework.
    Most professional websites use this method, because it is VERY easy to edit your content or add new content. plus you don't need to edit 524613471346 separate HTML files if you want to add a new item to the menu ;)
  9. Secksay

    Secksay Guest

    Sep 6, 2002
    New York, NY
    You could always try www.highlyinspired.com It's the webdesign company that I run :)

    We do design as well as hosting and we specialize in doing bands and musicians.

    *end plug*

    Or if not, you can always ask me for some help i dont mind :)
  10. Wow every one missed the most important thing!
    Don't use Microsoft Front Page!
  11. jazzbo


    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    Ya gotta actually read the posts there Gruffy. :D
  12. Hey I'm a little to busy posting uneducated information, you expect me to start reading?

  13. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    Adam, I thought you knew me better than that.

    I won't have any links to actual porn, but I might have a link to the "Little Annie Fanny" webpage. How's that?;)
  14. need help? email me... i do webdesign 3 - 4 hrs aday
  15. jazzbo


    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    One of the things I love about Blackturd is how he'll edit posts to correct grammatical mystaiks.

    So, yeah, I do know you better than that.
  16. don't use a black background... appearently it's a sign of poor design and porno sites if you do to my web animation professor. meaning new site for me. :rolleyes:
  17. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    I'm glad you noticed, Arseblow.

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