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Sgt. Pepper's, what's the big deal?

Discussion in 'Recordings [BG]' started by Jacob M, Sep 27, 2004.

  1. Help!

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  2. Rubber Soul

  3. Revolver

  4. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heats Club Band

  5. The White Album

  6. Yellow Submarine

  7. Magical Mystery Tour

  8. Abbey Road

  9. Let it Be

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  1. Jacob M

    Jacob M

    Aug 28, 2004
    New York
    It seems that culturally, it's kind of an accepted fact that Sgt. Pepper's is the best Beatles album ever, and the best Album ever. People will say things like "This is the best thing since Sgt. Pepper's!" or things like it, and I just don't get the fuss.

    I'm a huge Beatles fan, and I like Sgt. Peppers, but I think that every album from Revolver onward (excluding Let it Be) is much better than Sgt. Pepper's. I realize that it's alot to do with personal opinion, but do people here really thing Sgt. Pepper's is so much better than the other Beatles Albums?
  2. I like Abbey Road alot. Good album.
  3. DigMe


    Aug 10, 2002
    Waco, TX
    Sgt Pepper's was just kind of groundbreaking at the time as far as the recording methods used and whatnot. My faves are Revolver and Magical Mystery Tour.

    brad cook
  4. Marlat


    Sep 17, 2002
    London UK
    Pfft all that Beatle's stuff is okay..but Wings...that was where the real action was! :D

  5. ApeIsHigh81


    Aug 24, 2004
    I've always disliked the beatles. Shocking, I know.
  6. Adam Barkley

    Adam Barkley Mayday!

    Aug 26, 2003
    Jackson, MS
    Abbey Road is where it's at for me. Every Beatles cd I have heard has been great though.
  7. dls59

    dls59 Supporting Member

    Yep. Abbey Road for me. But it's hard to argue with any of them.
  8. odie

    odie Supporting Member

    Jacob- Check out the faq for posting in OT. Not a biggie, but OT is for non-music talk. I will it to recordings. The mod there might like it better in misc. But we will try.
  9. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    Fixed it for you.

    Pepper was groundbreaking because the production methods were as cutting edge as they could be at the time

    Rubber Soul is where it's at for me - great songs without pretense and all very doable live. Not so much of that doubletracking and backward looping they got into later, even though that was brilliant too.
  10. lbanks


    Jul 17, 2003
    Ennui, IN USA
    Beatle's never really crossed my radar, except remotely.
  11. Against Will

    Against Will Supporting Member

    Dec 10, 2003
    Big Sound Central
    I really like the "White Album", mainly because it's the only one I own, and because SOMEONE'S got to like it. Sgt. Pepper's was innovative and all that, hooray for it, I have trouble relating to it.
  12. FireAarro


    Aug 8, 2004
    Well it's winning now...

    I like Revolver, White Album, Abbey Road and Rubber Soul all alot, but Revolver most probably.
  13. andruca


    Mar 31, 2004
    Madrid (Spain)
    Abbey Road, Revolver and Magical Mistery Tour in that order...

  14. andruca


    Mar 31, 2004
    Madrid (Spain)
    One more thing. I heard sometime that for the concept of Sgt. Pepper's... Paul McCartney was inspired by Beach Boys' "Pet sounds" album. I got to hear it and, although I could notice some common guidelines with Sgt. Pepper's. If you're a Sgt. Pepper's fan you should check out Pet Sounds, a rather non-typical album you would never expect from the Beach Boys.

  15. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    As others have said - it's really about the time and context and it's impossible to take it out of that context.

    So - it was the first time that certain recording techniques were used and the sound palette of pop music was expanded.

    Also - it virtually invented the "concept album" in pop music - before, albums tended to be just like compilations of singles.

    The idea here was that the album as whole meant something and was a unified piece of work - this was hugely influential and changed the focus from singles to albums - a massive step and it spawned legions of similar things!

    Also - it was a question of how much it influenced other musicians around - so Jimi Hendrix famously pronounced it a work of genius and started playing the songs live - all sorts of stuff was around this album at the time.

    It's more of an important album than one you'd want to listen to, a lot!!! ;)
  16. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999
    You wouldn't have Peppers without Pet Sounds.
    You wouldn't have Pet Sounds without Revolver.

    Revolver is where it's at.
    The tape loops, the backwards guitars, the Indian/sitar influence, orchestral tunes, etc. all started with Revolver.
    Definitely Avant-Pop...still!
  17. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999
    Just be aware that The Beatles were really no longer 'a band' at the point The Beatles was written/recorded.
    The tunes still say Lennon-McCartney...they were not writing together at that time, though. The amount of songs where all 4 are actually playing together is pretty minimal.
    McCartney was doing pretty much everything on his tunes.

    On of the best Beatles' tunes to never make an album was recorded during those sessions-
    Harrison's "Not Guilty". Check it out on Anthology 3.
  18. andruca


    Mar 31, 2004
    Madrid (Spain)

    What everybody says is that Pet Sounds is hardly influenced by Rubber Soul (not Revolver). I don't frankly see a clear link with any of them...

  19. Squidfinger

    Squidfinger I wish I could sing like Rick Danko.

    Jan 7, 2004
    Shreveport LA
    From what I understand two things:

    1) Sgt. Pepper was the first album where the bass broke away from following the guitar and did its own thing (and still worked). Paul and John called it "lead" bass.

    2) It was the first album where the bass was directly recorded into the board instead of using a mic'ed cabinet.
  20. Lyle Caldwell

    Lyle Caldwell

    Sep 7, 2004
    Nope, James Jamerson had been doing both for years when Pepper came out. And most of the Beatles bass sounds were a miked cabinet.

    It was a bass breakthrough for rock, but it was parallel to Brian Wilson's Pet Sounds bass parts, and was heavily inspired by Motown.

    That said, Lovely Rita has a killer bass part.