Short scale high tension strings.

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by Finnigan's wake, Sep 3, 2017.


  1. Hi there, i'm looking for some infos concerning the best strings for my short scale bass:

    i used for many years the Rotosound (nylonwound) RS88S Short (65-75-90-115). A great feeling, good tension, i can set the action quite low. I love them but...

    For tone reasons i need now something brighter, so i just tried the D'Addario ENR71S Half Rounds, with good results: still good feeling and easy slides (i put slides everywhere) a brighter tone and a nice tension: (tension chart).

    Now i'm testing a set of SIT Power Wound extralight (40-60-75-95) ...
    AMAZING tone!!! These roundwound are the perfect thing for my Fenix bass: a bright, modern "clangy" sound, enough low end if i pluck the strings far from the bridge.
    The tone is perfect but the strings are really floppy wit a lot of awful buzzing.
    I must raise the action and this is bad.
    I find these strings really uncomfortable (very rough under my fingers).

    So i need: 1) brightness, 2) tension, 3)feeling... Any suggestion will be really appreciated.
    And sorry for my very bad english.
     
  2. SLaPiNFuNK

    SLaPiNFuNK Inactive Commercial User

    Jul 28, 2006
    LA California
    The Brains: FretNation.com
    How much tension? You can use a short scale bead set tuned to E standard if you want a lot of tension
     
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  3. this was my idea, but I don't know how much tension the neck can stand... (google translator)
     
  4. Pier_

    Pier_

    Dec 22, 2013
    Roma, Italia

    just buy a set of D'Addario in maybe steel (prosteel) or nickel (exl nickel) of the same gauge and tension...

    D'Addario Strings : XL Nickel Round Wound : EXL170S Nickel Wound Bass, Light, 45-100, Short Scale

    D'Addario Strings : XL Nickel Round Wound : EXL160S Nickel Wound Bass, Medium, 50-105, Short Scale

    D'Addario Strings : ProSteels Round Wound : EPS170S ProSteels Bass, Light, 45-100, Short Scale
     
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  5. Bella fratè (ciao paisà)
    i wish to try something stiffer: something like 115-50 or more... there's something on the market?
     
  6. well, i played with the D'Addario's string tension tool.
    I must find a set of stainless 130-95-70-50 to achieve a tension of +/- 40 lbs...
    Suggestions?
     
  7. HaphAsSard

    HaphAsSard

    Dec 1, 2013
    Italia
    Nah, @Pier_ is against fat strings on a shorty. However, always the experimenter, I don't think he'll discourage you from at least trying for yourself. ;)

    Short-scale BEADG sets exist, made for the 5-string Ibanez Mikro by DR strings and Ibanez. The DR ones would probably fit on your Fenix (32 inches of thick winding length) while the Ibanez-branded one might be too short judging from the package picture (the Mikro is an ultra-short bass with 28.6-inch scale); none of them appear to be available in Europe at a quick search. Also, high strings (.065 and .085) may be too tight not only for your taste but the integrity of the strings themselves.

    What I'd do is order a custom 120-90-65-50 set from either Pyramid or Newtone if you want (nickel-plated or stainless steel) roundwounds, or try either one of the heaviest La Bella Deep Talkin' Bass flatwound sets — the 49–109 "Medium" 760FM or the 52–110 0760M (also known as "Jamersons" and "Original 1954") — in short-scale (-S) version if you want to try a well-regarded flat.
    Some dealers have the 760FMS available:
    http://www.stringbusters.com/Ko-Bespoke/productlist.asp?cat=1/BASS STRINGS/BASS STRINGS LA BELLA
    4 String Sets « Bass Strings « Bass Accessories « Bass « Electro Music
    LaBella Flatwound strings
    And this one has the shorty '54's:
    La Bella 4-String Original 1954 Short Scale Flatwound Bass Strings
     
  8. Pier_

    Pier_

    Dec 22, 2013
    Roma, Italia
    IMHO, as mentioned by @HaphAsSard, big strings don't fit properly the short scale, soundwise, and I would not search for the "same tension" of a long scale bass.

    also, IMHO, the "balanced" sets are not the best for a good setup. I explained it in a topic some days ago :D

    I'd try a classic 50-105 set before jumping into strange and "balanced" sets. it's not only the string tension "at pitch" it's also the action, the setup and how they sound.
     
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  9. thanks, Pier
    i'll looking for a 105-50 to try.
    Thanks for your time
     
  10. Pier_

    Pier_

    Dec 22, 2013
    Roma, Italia
    PS: I just bought a Gibson SG Faded (2010), it will arrive in a couple of days, and I ordered from Amazon the D'Addario EXL160S :D

    you didn't tell us which bass you're using!
     
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  11. I have "Blondie" an old "mustangmaster" mustang3.jpg who plays nicely but i needed something modern... so...

    ... i found a bass i was looking for years: a short scale 24 frets with a single humbucker in MM position.
    More, he has a slim, fast neck and i love it!
    He's "Morris": a vintage Fenix SH Mk1, i replaced the stock humbucker wit a sweet Schaller Bassbucker. I also installed a 2-band preamp. Plays lovely, with roundwounds.
    fenix sh.jpg

    I'm also building a Fake Alembic as well, with a Epi Eb0 neck:
    "The poor guy's bass" Fakembic half-building.
     
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  12. update...
    in a drawer i found an old roundwound set, intended for a long scale. Some "rust" on it, anyway in good shape.
    If i remember well, are Dr DDT heavy or extra heavy... barely used... the E string is HUGE and the result exceeds my wildest expectations:
    -a LOT of tension, close to the 34" one
    -the neck needed a little work on the truss rod, little, a quarter of turn
    -and the sound... full, deep, bright, a LOT OF overtones wit a slight "chorus" effect.
     
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2017
  13. second update:
    i checked the gauges and ONLY the E string is a DDT, a 125
    the other are unknown roundwounds, so i have this set:
    125-85-70-45... the tension is about 40-34-40-31 lbs.
     
  14. Virgil

    Virgil She's My Inspiration

    Nov 30, 2005
    Dresher, Pa.
    MTD who now makes 30 and 32 inch short scaled Basses sell strings 40-120 gauge that are perfect.
     
  15. HaphAsSard

    HaphAsSard

    Dec 1, 2013
    Italia
    Have you got a link to an online vendor for these, by any chance? Or is it a matter of contacting MTD directly? [I can't find a short-scale by them available anywhere (including their website), but I admit I haven't look that hard nor long.] Thanks!
     
  16. Virgil

    Virgil She's My Inspiration

    Nov 30, 2005
    Dresher, Pa.
    Contact MTD directly
     
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  17. Virgil

    Virgil She's My Inspiration

    Nov 30, 2005
    Dresher, Pa.
    Labella makes his strings.
     
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