Should I ditch my eden 4x10 for epifani or bergantino?

Before anything else, I would check your speaker surrounds for any signs of creasing and maybe get them re coned...
At that time you could get them switched to 4ohm ratings....
Or add a 2 10 or a 12 to increase your amp volume
Reconing with eden kits will tighten up the sound again
Murphy

 

My personal preference is the Berg. My only experience gigging with Edens was with a 2- 210xlt set and it sounded good, just not in the same class in terms of clarity and tone as the Berg. FWIW, I switched from an Epifani 2x12 to a Berg NV610 and I am in hog heaven. Far too much speaker for what I do, but I love the tone. That being said, I'll change to something else someday - probably a neodyninum rig. I'm not getting any younger!

As far a pumping out the volume, the Berg can do it and you will have better tone - unless the stage is unreasonably loud. If you have to play with really loud stage volume there is something wrong - more than comfortable volume should be handled by a PA (IMHO~)

Dan K.

 

You should (or maybe shouldn't, 'cause you'll be gassin' big time if you do... ) A/B a couple of bergie cabinets with your Eden. My 410xlts are either sold or long since gathering dust in my "music room"...the Eden cab is simply not in the same sonic world as the HT-322 Bergie...which is about the same size and weight...

If you're playing ERB's, I believe it's a no brainer. Shoot, if you check out the "mini stack" of Ht/Exs 112's, I believe that you'll be very suprised also...

RC

 

check out the schroeder 410..happen to have one 4 sale..great for rock & blues & seems to be more efficient than the berg 322 which i've also had.

 

I actually bought a Whappo Jr. of of Boogie bass who prefers the Epifani UL over the whappo. I assume that since that is the case the epifani is one heck of a cab. He also kept a HT322 so you really cant go wrong. I would go with the epifani and if you dont like it you can always make a switch. Im sure you wont have an problems, bring your comparison wouls be with the eden. It certainly will be much louder.
My 2 cents

 

I 2nd tha schroeder

 

i'm also interested in this comparison...i know that both are GREAT cabs, but what would the difference in tone be between the Epifani 410UL and the Bergantino 322?

 

As much as I love my Epi410UL, for the head your are using and the sound you are describing, one of the Berg cabs without a tweeter (I think they are called the NV line) sounds like it would do the trick. Those cabs are made to rock with an Ampeg head. The Epi410UL is IMO much more subtle, somewhat 'hi fi' and articulate.... great for slap, fusion, funk, jazz.... maybe not the best for any sort of overdriven rock deal.

The Schroeder410 would also be awesome IMO, from my experience with his smaller cabs.

 

My Bergie 610 has tons of low end, despite the conservative statistic. In fact, I have been looking at getting a separate cab to get more highs!

 

My NV610 handles the B on my SR5 with no problem. I only play fives and I wouldn't have bought it if it couldn't hang. The 48Hz spec doesn't mean "can't handle the B", it means "the B isn't naturally muddy". Don't let frequency response specs try to tell you what the cabinet sounds like. It's just one of many parameters that make up the sound of the cab.

Lugging a 6x10 around isn't a picnic but the sound is fantastic. I too will probably move to something else someday, but it absolutely will not be because the cabinet isn't cutting it for me sonically.

 

IMO (as others have stated on a number of threads), those roll off stats are relatively useless for use in comparing cabs. Remember, the roll-off of your Eden410XLT is very high (I think around 50 hz), and I've never heard people say they lack a good, punchy low end. Also, I assumed you turned the tweeter off... the Berg NV cabs are designed for that sound. The Epi is very articulate in the upper mids and treble.... just doesn't seem like the best fit for what you are looking for. Hopefully you can try some of these cabs out.

The Schroeder 410 with the standard tweeter gets rave reviews here and, from my experience with my 1210, would be in the same sound family as the Eden410XLT, with more volume, a smoother mid and treble response. Weight would be about the same, although the cab would be smaller due to the side mounting of two of the 10's.

PS....I find that extremely hi treble center frequency on the OB-3 to be more useful in rolling of the hi treble without impacting the upper mids versus boosting treble. I would guess for your sound, you use that control mainly in 'cut'. If that's the case, whether a cab has a tweeter or not is kind of a moot point in your decision making process IMO.

 

Please post when you make your purchase. All the cabs you are looking at are great. Again, I think the 410UL is the greatest cab ever, but I go for a very different sound than you do. However, with the tweeter rolled back, it just may do the trick for you.

 

Something to keep in mind is that a sealed cabinet like the NV610 will not roll off on the extreme lows nearly as quickly as a ported cabinet.

 

If you get the chance to try them be sure to fire up the Bergantino NV215 and the NV425. One of those may really fit the bill. You'll be very surprised when you play through them.

 

I play 5'ers (Ken Lawrence Brase, MTD, Sadowsky, Lakland) - TRUST ME, THE NV610 HAS NO PROBLEM IN THE LOW END!

Dan K.