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Should I go for broke...

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by SpankBass, Aug 6, 2001.


  1. I have been itching to get a better bass for awile now and I have about $1500 to spend. Im still a begginer (well maybe im about moderately fair), and im not sure if I should just go for broke on some $1000 fender or upgrade to like a $300-$600. This money is burning a hole in my pocket. Thanks for any suggestions.
     
  2. I had the same problem when i was playin guitar. i had been playing guitar for a year and a half and i had the chance to get this $400 marshall that i liked(as appose to the $50 amp of mine) and i ended up buying it and i didnt really notice it much at first but after but after bout a year i noticed that i enjoyed playing alot more and when i played it didnt sound as bad because the sound quality was much better. so i suggest buyin it and it will help out in the long run. i also like the TOOL quote.

    PS if yer into TOOL, justin plays a Wal bass thats around that price range.
     
  3. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    I say buy a new bass. I suggest a Spector NS 4CR. IMO it's much better than a Fender, but if you have your heart set on a Fender, go for it. It's alway great to have new equipment. When you buy something new, you tend to play it alot more often. The more you play, the faster you will get better.

    Good luck.

    Wal basses are around $3000.00. :) I wish they were closer to $1500.

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  4. i reckon if you can save more, do that so that you can have more of a selection when you you finally do buy. But i do agree. bite the bullet and definately buy some worthwhile equpiment. Good gear lasts longer and sounds better. You'll never regret a good purchase. Also if you only buy a slight upgrade you'll only have to upgrade again later.
     
  5. I'd also consider an amp upgrade at the same time. Keep your current bass as a backup though. For $1500 you can buy a more powerful amp and a new bass if you shop around. Used Fenders are a dime a dozen if you have your heart set on a P bass or a Jazz. Take your time and play everything you come across.

    My $0.02!
     
  6. By-Tor

    By-Tor

    Apr 13, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    If I had $1500 to spend, I would spend at least $1000 on a bass and have the $500 for other equipmet.
    For $1000 you could get a great bass new or used.
    But definitly shop around, you can get an incredable used bass and still have money left over to go towards an amp.
    But remember, check out all your options.
    Since you are kind of a beginner, play as many basses as possible to get what you like and what you will still be happy with many years down the road.
     
  7. seamus

    seamus

    Feb 8, 2001
    Jersey
    I just want to add something about what Nino suggested because someone in the thread brought my attention to your Tool quote. Wal basses are very expensive, and I think the NS4CR is as close to it as you'll ever get without buying a Wal.

    The older NS4CR that Nino suggested can be had for $900 at MF. To my ears, they are capable of nailing Justin's sound for a fraction of the price. The older NS5CR's are available for just $100 more, allthough I find a D tuned 4 is best for playing Tool.

    Spectors have a great all around rock sound. The body is dense though, so use the money you save for a comfortable strap. The neck is round too, so keep that in mind if you are used to a slim profile neck. Other than that, they sound really good.
     
  8. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    Yeah, what kind of amp do you have? Your profile doesn't show it.

    You can get a $9000 Status and it won't be able to display what sets it apart, sonically, if you're running it through a mediocre/poor amp.

    So, make sure your investment is somewhat balanced between your bass and amp.
     
  9. Get a Pedula!!

    :D

    Rock on
    Eric
     
  10. BigJH

    BigJH

    Jan 20, 2001
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Go for a Kingston. Or a Spector like Nino said. This way you can upgrade your amps also. I have only heard good things about the Kingston. The spector has a great growl to it. You should also try ESP, Ibanez, or any other bass that catches your eye.
     
  11. RS

    RS

    Aug 27, 2000
    Cleveland, OH
    Don't be too hasty to spend your money. Try everything you can. Buy used if possible. Make sure it is something you'll keep in the long run.
     
  12. I dunno, I say get a used good bass (MIA Fender, or Spector or whatever) for about $500, and get a good amp for about $550, and just use the rest for other stuff. Thats just my opinion.
     
  13. Thank you all for your help. I think i might wait awile and look around for a used bass. I think I might take a little trip down to Petes Music or Mars (even though i really don't like Mars) and try to find a bass that fits for me. A Spector sounds promissing. As does a Kingston. Arghh i hate shopping :confused:. I'll update my profile sometime...ima lazt lazy man. When I find something that looks good i'll post it on this site just to make sure I don't get a bad deal (i said i was a newbie). Thanx again.
     
  14. Rich Briere

    Rich Briere

    Jul 5, 2000
    Did I miss it or did you not already post what your current bass is??

    If I had $1500 in my pocket, I'd consider working in from another direction.

    I'd start with a NEW 4 space rack. I'd pop in a Furman Power conditioner and a Korg rack mount tuner. I might consider a rack mount effects unit to be used SPARINGLY as well.

    I'd spend $100 on a single line cable and $50 on a single speaker cable. I'd then pick up a Fender 1270P 100 watt powered monitor. No matter where you play, or whose PA you use, you'll always have the same monitor sound. An important thing to keep your concentration levels consistant.

    I'd drop $30 on a small fan to keep on the floor next to your monitor...to keep YOU well ventilated while playing. It also REALLY annoys the other guys in the band that you're the only one smart enough to think of bringing one.

    I'd pick up a nice effects bag (did I say Fender again?) :) so that you can put all of your extra tools, batteries, two bass stands, a small rugged flashlight, extra strings, a stage towel for your wet head, extra GUITAR stings, a pair or two of generic drumsticks and polishing gear. The guitar strings and the sticks can be SOLD to the guys in your band when they aren't as well prepared and have not planned properly. I think that $50 for the strings OR the sticks would certainly be fair. :^>)

    OK.....Now..how much of the $1500 do WE have left?? Trust me..get everything mentioned above first and you'll enjoy playing soooo much more that you'll be quite happy with your current rig.

    Bass-ically Yours,
    RB
     
  15. EString

    EString

    Nov 20, 2000
    Los Altos, CA
    Don't feel obligated to spend ALL of the $1500.
    If you don't need the gear right away, it would be wiser to watch eBay for good deals for a while. If you see something you like, and it's cheap, go for it.

    Otherwise, I wouldn't recommend buying any bass for more than $800. As a beginner, you may not know it, but you are still looking for your musical identity. You don't want to get an expensive bass that later down the road you find isn't totally "right" for you.

    If you get something appropriately priced for your level and you take your time looking for good deals and evaluating where you might be moving stylistically, you will feel much better about your purchase 6 months from then.

    Remember, whatever portion of that $1500 you don't spend can be set aside for your next, next upgrade. By then you will probably have a more concrete idea of what you are looking for in a bass, and you will feel good about committing your resources in that direction.
     
  16. rickreyn

    rickreyn

    Jun 16, 2000
    Lutz, Florida
    Half the fun for me is shopping for a new bass. About twice a year I get the urge to go on an expedition for the ultimate bass, within a budget of course. This time I went to a bass speciality store and played basses for four hours. I got a MM at a price that would allow you to get a decent effects unit with the leftovers.
     
  17. Freakapotamus9

    Freakapotamus9

    Jun 20, 2001
    Nebraska
    agreed. i wouldnt go for broke just cuz you have the money. also, listen to what RB said. he has some very good points there. get the necessities, and then the toys :). a monitor always comes in handy, and the strings for the guitar player is an excellent idea. my guitar player used to use elixer strings, so he didnt always have extra set ( cuz they cost more ....... :mad: ) . we'd start practicing, hed kick on the distortion and wail on the guitar. then, *snap!*, one of his strings breaks, and practice is officially over.
    then after you have all that, get the new bass or amp.
    Sam
     
  18. rickreyn

    rickreyn

    Jun 16, 2000
    Lutz, Florida
    Until you've got a fine bass and amp, all the little accessories will not satisfy.
     
  19. Rich Briere

    Rich Briere

    Jul 5, 2000
    Ricky/.......with all due respect......I must heartily disgree.

    Having played bass for 35 years (ARK!, I've become a Geezer) I can't tell you how often I've seen bands "shut down" because they don't have the "little things" that they should have; the extra fuse, the flashlight, tool kits, duct tape, etc.

    The word "fine" must also be defined. :) Farrrrrr too many young players think that with the purchase of better gear comes the abilty to actually play better.

    When doing clinics the #1 question I'm asked is: "I bought the bass that my idol has, I bought the amp that my idol has......and I still sound awful.

    My stock answer: "Guess what....you NEVER will have his or her sound....you're not them". :)

    The "Little things" make ALL the difference in being happier when doing gigs in "real life".

    MY suggestion was made because I constantly see folks in these posts who think that they "need" new gear. The search for the holy grail is a wonderful quest indeed. However, I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of people in these forums don't even have an extra set of NEW bass strings in their road box. :)

    In closing, I own (no, they own me:)) 37 basses. I own 20 something bass amps. All of them are "fine". One of my favorites is a Squier Jazz bass that is just KILLER! I'd proudly play it on any gig.

    However, if I get my first gig opening for a "big name band" and I've prepared by spending a bundle on a fine bass and a fine amp....but in my nervousness I break a string during the first song........who do I have to blame?

    Ya know who'll HAVE the extra string I need...and the tuner and the wrenches to get the fledgling player's "fine bass" back up and running in 30 seconds before the next song is even ready to begin?

    The "Big Band" with that list of accessory/necessities will. :)

    Bass-ically Yours,
    RB
     
  20. I like that RB, you have a good way of thinking. You should post a "family picture" of all your toys like JT does.

    Well it looks like I might not be getting anything anytime too soon. Found out that i have a car to register (around $200 i think), drivers training (about $150), car insurance (yet to be known), and a horse riding lessons for my g/f (about $36 a lesson, God only knows how many lessons, but I love her:D).

    Its ok because this will give me time to look around and find out what kind of bass is good for me.