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Should i sell my all tube Ashdown LB30 head and buy an Ampeg V4B?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by boristhespider7, Jun 23, 2017.


  1. boristhespider7

    boristhespider7

    Jan 27, 2008
    UK
    Pro's of LB30:
    V small and lightweight with matching cab
    Really handy in studio...has a post power tube DI
    Nice tone
    Loud enough for small gigs and rehearsals

    Cons:
    Fender style EQ not the most usable to tweek...seems a bit random
    Not quite loud enough for gig with loud drummer and no PA support...only 30W. but i do have another Ashdown 500W for the bigger gigs


    I play a P bass and am after that classic slightly grindy rock tone with a pic that i hear on SVT's. However i def don't want the weight of an SVT.
    BTW, i also have an Ashdown ABM500 (500W hybrid) for the louder stuff (however i'm not a massive fan of the EQ on that too but its does the job and can sound quite valvey/grindy..it does have a tube pre)

    Anyone gone from Ashdown to Ampeg and not looked back or gone the other way?
     
  2. Mr. Foxen

    Mr. Foxen Commercial User

    Jul 24, 2009
    Bristol, UK
    Amp tinkerer at Ampstack
    EQ is prob closer to a Hiwatt one. Get another cab the same, for more volume. Less pushed makes the eq bit more responsive too. Or get an LB550.
     
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  3. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    I never recommend against getting a V4B :D But it's always great to have a low wattage tube amp for recording.
     
  4. FronTowardEnemy

    FronTowardEnemy It is better to go unnoticed, than to suck Supporting Member

    Sep 19, 2006
    Plainfield Illinois
    It depends. I love my LB30, but I don't gig it, I only use it for home practice and the occasional rehearsal. I have a Fender SB300 for live gigs.

    So I guess I would keep the LB30 and buy the V4B.
     
  5. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    Understand that the V4 is NOT an SVT. It will NOT sound like one.

    Many think the V4 is a 100W mini SVT but not even close.

    The V4 is "cleaner" than an SVT. It is much harder to get grit and dirt from a V4. It is not a beefy as an SVT either.

    They are not the "same preamp with less power". It's a totally different circuit.

    They are both amazing at what they do. But what they do is different.
     
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  6. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    While there are differences, they're not that drastic and can be overcome for the most part with EQ. The V4B has flat response with knobs at noon and the SVT has a hump at 100-150 hz and gradually tapers off going up the spectrum. But you can adjust the EQ's to sound like someone's favorite sounds out of both.

    Cleaner? Nah, I'd say they're about the same for clean, although obviously the SVT goes louder cleaner, it's not by a butt-ton. And getting grit and dirt is just as easy on both. Don't get that one at all. As for beef, some might disagree, but I've done an AB with them on a gig and I thought both of them had equal amounts of beef at the volumes I use them. Which, admittedly isn't too loud, but it's loud enough to hear.
     
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  7. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    You have obviously spent more time with Ampeg gear than I have. But ournexoeriences were totally different. I have owned and early 70s SVT and V4. The V4, to me, was almost hi-fi compared to the ACT. The SVT almost wanted to he aggressive while you had to dial crap out of the V4 to go that route. And I play pretty hard compared to most.

    If Jimmy says you can coax a fat round hairy tube tone out of a V4 then I will defer to him and say it can be done. I couldn't do it with mine.
     
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  8. boristhespider7

    boristhespider7

    Jan 27, 2008
    UK
    Isn't there some slight difference to the vintage V4's and the re-issue V4b?
     
  9. boristhespider7

    boristhespider7

    Jan 27, 2008
    UK
    Would love to but finances don't permit it. Only way i can get a bigger valve head is to sell the one i have. Plus the only valve head in my price range are the Ampeg V4b or the Ashdown CTM100
     
  10. beans-on-toast

    beans-on-toast Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2008
    Time for a road trip to a place that has a V4B reissue in stock. You'll never know till you try one. Bring a spare pair of pants, you'll need them after trying the V4B. Enough said.
     
  11. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    That I can not answer.
     
  12. coreyfyfe

    coreyfyfe Supporting Member

    Nov 19, 2007
    boston, ma
  13. boristhespider7

    boristhespider7

    Jan 27, 2008
    UK
    Lol, v true that's what i need to do. Problem is in the UK Ampeg isn't available in guitar stores that often...tends to be more Ashdown, Laney plus some Markbass round here. If there is Ampeg it tends to be the small digital heads
     
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  14. Mr. Foxen

    Mr. Foxen Commercial User

    Jul 24, 2009
    Bristol, UK
    Amp tinkerer at Ampstack
    Dozens of 100w territory valve heads come in cheaper than either of those s/h.
     
  15. 40Hz

    40Hz Supporting Member

    Yep. That's why Ampeg makes the B-15N. ;):D
     
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  16. Mike in Chicago

    Mike in Chicago Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2011
    Chicago
    Yes. V4b
     
  17. Kmonk

    Kmonk

    Oct 18, 2012
    South Shore, Massachusetts
    Endorsing Artist: Fender, Spector, Ampeg, Curt Mangan, Nordstrand Pickups, Korg , Conquest Sound
    I had an Ashdown and could never seem to dial in a good sound. I went back to an Ampeg SVT-CL and have no regrets.
     
  18. beans-on-toast

    beans-on-toast Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2008
    Yes, unfortunately it is difficult finding them. That's why I mentioned taking a road trip. Being the only kid on your street that has an Ampeg comes with a price. :laugh:
     
  19. boristhespider7

    boristhespider7

    Jan 27, 2008
    UK
    Seriously, where? Don't see much locally on ebay
     
  20. Mr. Foxen

    Mr. Foxen Commercial User

    Jul 24, 2009
    Bristol, UK
    Amp tinkerer at Ampstack
    Got 60 or so piled up about my house, think linking any would prob violate the commercial user thing though. No need of local since international shipping became a thing.
     

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