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Sigh - Give me some of this effect creativity please...

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by thejohnkim, Nov 16, 2005.


  1. thejohnkim

    thejohnkim

    Sep 30, 2003
    NYC
    Every once in a while I go through this "do i really need effects" phrase debating whether or not it takes away from my focus on clean musicality...

    then i listen to the guyatone sample of justin meldal-johnsen:
    http://www.guyatone.com/artists/meldal-johnsen.html

    repeat it 5 times....

    and wonder "why oh why can't i do that?!?!?!"
     
  2. dirtgroove

    dirtgroove

    Jan 10, 2003
    Taipei, Taiwan
    Don't worry. He probably doesn't get out much. ;)
     
  3. Yah, I was gonna say if you could do such a fun job, for such a short time period, for such good money, and have so much spare time in which to spend you easily earned money, then...

    ...you'd probably have the time, resources and inclination to sit around with a copy of Protools and all the associated paraphernalia required to churn out "micro-songs" purely for the benefit of effects pedal manufacturers.

    Hell, if it took him a week to put that song together, what would it matter to him during his down time!? Whereas, a week spent on music for me equates to a lost job, a missed mortgage payment, a repossessed car and some hired goons at my door!!!
     
  4. you should get some more effect pedals...maybe some guyatones...
     
  5. jerm

    jerm

    Jul 10, 2005
    I dont really know about that guy but...I just don't know. Effects should enhance good bass playing, not the other way around. At least thats my philosiphy.
     
  6. dirtgroove

    dirtgroove

    Jan 10, 2003
    Taipei, Taiwan
    That's one way of looking at it. There's no right way or a wrong way. If you already have a good bass part for some music - then it's unlikely that you're going to find some an effect that will give it some extra spice (with the exception of standards like a pinch of revb/cho/od ). It don't find that I often have room to use say delay or, filter or synth tones.
    On the other hand if you start making a song with an effect in mind from the start- it's harder to turn it off again as the effect can often be what gives the song that "hook" in the first place.
    The biggest challenge is being able to use them expressively- as oppose to mid song wondering what the chorus will sound like if you stomp on pedal x (always interesting- but be prepared to suddenly dodge flying drumsticks).
     
  7. Brad Barker

    Brad Barker Supporting Member

    Apr 13, 2001
    berkeley, ca
    damn, that's some effectice advertising! :p
     
  8. Brad Barker

    Brad Barker Supporting Member

    Apr 13, 2001
    berkeley, ca

    gonna have to call bs on that--his entire board(s) was shown in bass player magazine about two years ago.

    it's the one where he's on the cover. :smug:
     
  9. Taking that to the extreme (not saying that is your point, just postulating ok!) there would only be one instrument in existence - since it has the perfect, ultimate sound that cannot be improved upon by any means.

    Here in reality, varied tones add interest and unique-ness to music that otherwise would be ridiculously boring. So anything is fair game in my book. If you wanna play a bass part with a contrabass basoon half-filled with talcum powder, be my guest, would love to hear it!

    I love to hear effects device being treated as an "instrument" unto themselves. Imagine life without the bass lines from One Of These Days, Sleepless, Sir Psycho Sexy or...?