silly sub question

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by flameworker, Dec 31, 2014.

  1. flameworker

    flameworker

    Jun 15, 2014
    Landenberg, Pennsylvania
    one day....
    I learned recently putting cabinet s closer together make s them sound louder. Tried it and it works.

    What would happen if one were to combine several low wattage small subwoofer boxes?

    The new bose pa had me thinking, they just use 2 of the same subs for bigger system.

    I was wondering if I had 2-4 100 watt small sub boxes, would that be/seem louder than 1 400 watt big box ?

    I'm fixing to do some bookstore/coffee shop solo shows, I need a little 30-20hz support. Just a touch.

    I was even thinking of going to all the thrift stores/habitat and getting all the powered home theater subs, and wiring them together somehow in a big pile.


    Is there a book anyone can recommend with modern technology? I have a few from 60-80s and really they made me ask more questions than I got answers.

    Like those orange isobaric cabs, I don't care for them, but I like the idea. In the book I have isobaric is shown with speakers facing each other.
     
  2. flameworker

    flameworker

    Jun 15, 2014
    Landenberg, Pennsylvania
    one day....
    BIC Venturi V1220

    Just got one of these from craigslist for $50. Now five more. ...
     
  3. gpx1200

    gpx1200

    Apr 24, 2013
    spencer mass
    get a fearfull 12/6 or add a 12 sub to your current rig, all your low end needs will be fulfilled in a lot smaller package than a pile of home theater subs.
    theirs a chart somwear on the fearfull page that tells you exactly how long to make your port shelf to tune the cab to the certan resonant frequency you want
     
  4. flameworker

    flameworker

    Jun 15, 2014
    Landenberg, Pennsylvania
    one day....
    Greenboys fearful 15/6 with a 15 sub is my long term plan, but $$$ not for a few months. was just pondering what a group of small subs would be like. Got that wee sub, should fill out the sound for my immediate needs ok. 400watts, 200 actual watts, for that price is a good stopgap solution to go with 4 8. Not really getting more, I will test the idea by borrowing a few other powered subs tho.
     
  5. El Spearo

    El Spearo

    Jun 12, 2012
    Wellington, NZ
    Why don't you save that money towards your ultimate goal?
     
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  6. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Inactive

    OP, may I humbly suggest that you tell us what it is that you are trying to accomplish. Your posts are all over the place with ideas that will not work too well. All of us here want desperately to help you get to where you want to be but you're just giving us bits and pieces of information in your questions.

    Home theatre subs are useless for an electric bass as they don't provide the frequency range that a bass needs. They also are designed to provide low effects into an average size room in a house. At a gig they will fail to do what is needed.

    I hope you have a great New Year.
     
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  7. gpx1200

    gpx1200

    Apr 24, 2013
    spencer mass
    might be a cool expairiment to try wireing a few subs together in different places around the room, see how you can use the acoustics of the room.
    yoll love the fearfuls, i have a 1212/6/1 and a 12/6/1 in the works, they are awsome
     
  8. will33

    will33

    May 22, 2006
    austin,tx
    Might run into some weird response stuff running a bunch of different brands/types of subs together, which is what you'd end up with picking up whatever's cheap off CL.

    But hey, it could be cool too. :)
     
  9. gpx1200

    gpx1200

    Apr 24, 2013
    spencer mass
    i say go for it just because if you can use home theater speakers for your bass then that justifys me building 2 fearful 12/6/1 cabs for my home stereo speakers
     

  10. There are not enough specifics to answer your question.
     
  11. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
  12. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa Boogie, Development Engineer-Genzler (pedals), Product Support-Genz Benz
    That BIC sub is nowhere near even 200 watts. Maybe 50 watts.

    IMO, you are headed in a great money wasting exercise with no residual value as you are buying essentially disposable "junk".

    There are many other better options that will ultimately cost less, especially if you buy used.

    If you are expecting 20-30Hz response, you are also barking way up the wrong tree, until you get fairly large, sensitivity is going to be way too low to be practically useful. Why do you think you need response down to 20Hz?

    In the pro audio world there is a saying, "buy once, cry once".
     
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  13. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
    Yep, and the corollary: "garbage in, garbage out."
     
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  14. AlexanderB

    AlexanderB

    Feb 25, 2007
    Sweden
    OP, the basic reason that there is no point in doing "small scale" low frequency reproduction is the very un-linear function of our hearing. Look at this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fletcher–Munson_curves

    Even in a low key, small gig, a compact, low cost sub is pointless. You HAVE to get something "large-ish" / "expensive-ish" to get any kind of worthwile result.
     
  15. The title says it all...
     
  16. Stick_Player

    Stick_Player Inactive

    Nov 13, 2009
    Somewhere on the Alaska Panhandle (Juneau)
    Endorser: Plants vs. Zombies Pea Shooters
    That's too hard!

    The Piggy-Bank always gets raided for cell phone bills and beer.
     
  17. BIC Venturi. Wow. There's a name I haven't heard it 35 years.
     
  18. El Spearo

    El Spearo

    Jun 12, 2012
    Wellington, NZ
    I know bro, There's always one thing or another. Or beer, delicious beer
     
  19. Think of a pile of hi-fi subs as a play pen full of screaming 3 year olds and you will understand different brands and models of sub don't play well together. You need either all the same kind or one big one.

    Further, hi-fi stuff is useless for bass guitar.

    Again, what are you doing that requires 20hz coverage?
     
  20. wcriley

    wcriley

    Apr 5, 2010
    Western PA
    At performance level, I'd expect 20Hz to shred the LF driver in a fEARful, no matter how much you extend or block the port.

    OP: Why do you need response at 20-30Hz?