I'd like to start one here. 1st - I dont' think we should be discussing what types of guns to buy on talkbass, and what's a good deal or not on an assault weapon. 2nd - I believe people should have the right to own guns because if they didn't we'd be in REALLY big trouble due to the now cliche "then only outlaws would have guns". 3rd - I believe no matter how you twist or turn turn owning any type of weapon that you're not going to be using for hunting means you have a lot of fear in your life. 4th - I believe gun manufacturers don't care who gets killed with the guns that that they manufacture, they only care about sales, and things need to be radically changed. 5th - I believe the world would be an enormously better place if guns were never invented. That's all for now. Keep it civil you gun toting barbarians.