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Sire v7 vs. MTD Kingston Neck

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by micbass, Jul 18, 2017.

  1. micbass


    Jul 1, 2017
    McKinney, TX
    Help me out guys.

    Yesterday, I hit a local music shop and played a couple of MTD Kingston Z4s.
    The playability of the neck blew me away. So much so, I got lost on the way home a couple of times just thinking about it. I currently have a Sterling SUB4 which now appears to be a chunk.

    I began reading about the Sire v7 bases (4 string). I can't find any locally to test, so I'm relying on you to help me out.

    Can anyone bring some insight regarding the neck feel/playability of these 2 models for me?

    Thanks!! and !!
  2. abarson


    Nov 6, 2003
    Santa Cruz
    MTD has an asymmetric profile, meaning the treble side of the neck is thinner than the bass side. I find the profile really comfortable. The width at the nut for both is 1.5 inches but the MTD fretboard radius is flatter (12-14 inch) than the Sire (7.25 inch). I equate flatter fretboards to being "faster".
    Although I've not played one, all indications are that the Sire necks have more of the traditional Fender Jazz C profile. In either case, the MTD and Sire necks are going to feel much more svelte than your Sterling.
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  3. micbass


    Jul 1, 2017
    McKinney, TX
    Thank you, sir! I appreciate the detail. I'm trekking back to the shop today as MTDs are hard to find in my neck of the woods. After watching several videos, I just don't think the feel of the Sire neck will cause me to loose my way home. Sincerely - I lost my way home twice after playing the MTD. I had to focus on driving.
  4. abarson


    Nov 6, 2003
    Santa Cruz
    I'd say that bass has your number. Make it so.
  5. micbass


    Jul 1, 2017
    McKinney, TX
    You are so right! I'm a danger to the public with out it! Kinda like a moral obligation.
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  6. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    central NY state
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    I can't make the requested comparison having never played an MTD, and my two Sire V7s are both 5s not 4s, but this sounds right to me, the Sire V7 is definitely patterned on the traditional Fender Jazz C. I will say, if you're looking for a sleek modern neck, the Sire M series might be worth checking out - I have an M4 4 string and an M7 5er 35" scale, both very sleek necks.
  7. micbass


    Jul 1, 2017
    McKinney, TX
    Man! They are out of the M series right now. Decisions.....what's a fella to do?
    Get 'em both! screams the Devil.
  8. omardottcom


    Feb 1, 2004
    Caguas, PR
    I'd say, get the Sire. If it doesn't amaze you like the MTD, then you can always sell the Sire easily. And use the funds to get the MTD.

    Well your last post was over a month ago. Wonder what you ended up doing?
  9. micbass


    Jul 1, 2017
    McKinney, TX
    Ok, guys. I need to come clean on this. This may turn out a little long-winded. I did not grab that MTD. I had the cash in hand and was about to leave for the shop. I couldn't do it, and here's why.

    My son had saved and bought me a low cost Sterling Sub bass to replace a nice Ergodyne that mysteriously sprouted legs or wings to strike out on her own. I never knew which; she was calculating and fickle. But a real player, in far too many ways.

    The Sterling was awful. Setup rather poorly, action way too high - I'm still recovering from the gorilla death grip needed to fret. Then I met the MTD. Oh, she was a temptress - using all her wiles and come hither looks....long story short: my son had caught me looking far too much at bass porn and I could see the hurt. For lack of better words, I just couldn't break his heart.

    I got the idea to take the Sterling to a luthier and see what could be done. I hit a local high-dollar shop. They had Alembics hanging at a level where you could grab them yourself. Very unlike my local GC, where anything over 1.2K is hanging up in the rafters. The luthier gave it a quick look and said he couldn't do much with the neck in the shape it was. Feeling rejected, I stumbled out of the shop, touching the Alembic on the way out, just to smudge it up.

    A couple weeks later, I had the idea to take her to GC where it was purchased. I figured if it is as bad as I was told, I could at least get credit. They had a couple of techs on hand that day. I picked the old guy in hopes he had been doing this a while and maybe learned a few tricks along the way. When he finished, she was like another bass. The action was so much better, my fingers fumbled around uncertainly, exploring unknown territory.

    Ah, my Sterling. She has some heft...built like a bar wench who can take a shot...surely not the most desirable in the room. But now she plays.
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  10. twc1313

    twc1313 Practice is the cure for GAS...or so I've heard.

    Oct 28, 2013
    Pittsburgh, Pa
    I am glad you got that sorted out. The SUB Ray4 has a very slim neck (to me slimmer than the Sire) and is my easiest bass to play. They are capable of a very low action as well. Glad to see your SUB got set up the right way!
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