Slanted Frets

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Truktek2, Dec 30, 2008.

  1. Truktek2

    Truktek2

    Sep 5, 2008
    Queens, NY
    So I came across a bass that has slanted frets made by Dingwall guitars. At first I thought the picture was skewed then realized it wasn't. looks pretty cool, but then I got to thinking.....wouldn't the intonation be off? Seems to me that notes would either be sharp or flat no? Or is this one of those optical illusions type things that I can't figure out until I see some magician on t.v. ruining the whole trick.

    http://www.dingwallguitars.com/html/products_superj.html

    Any advantages or just a gimmick?.............so confused:atoz:
     
  2. QuelOround

    QuelOround Guest

    Nov 24, 2008
    Grand Prairie, Texas
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  3. T.O.Bass

    T.O.Bass Guest

    Google "fanned fret guitar" and all will be revealed to you. Or, for that matter, actually read the Dingwall website...
     
  4. T-MOST

    T-MOST

    Dec 10, 2004
    NJ via NYC
    There will be no sharp or flat notes. The board is skewed from 36" scale on the E side to 34" scale on the G side. The frets are fanned to match the scale on both sides. I played one a few years back. It was awkward in the beginning but after running the board a few times it starts to make sense. it's still not my cup of tea but some people really love them.
     
  5. fullrangebass

    fullrangebass

    May 7, 2005
    Europe
    The notes are definitely in tune. And dare I add the fanned fret concept is no gimmick. It's the best thing since sliced bread. I've owned more than 60 high-end and boutique basses at one given time. Dingwall basses rate top of my book in terms of playability, ergonomics and most important, TONE.

    www.dingwallguitars.com
     
  6. fullrangebass

    fullrangebass

    May 7, 2005
    Europe
    The scale on a 4str Dingwall (not a Super J 4str though which is 34,25" to 32" from E to G) is 36,25" on the E str to a 34" on a G string.

    The 5str goes 37"-34" from B to G string
     
  7. DanielleMuscato

    DanielleMuscato

    Jun 19, 2004
    Columbia, Missouri, USA
    Endorsing Artist, Schroeder Cabinets
    Fanned frets just means a different scale length for each string. Intonation is unaffected. It gives you (arguably) better tone by allowing a longer scale length on the lower-pitched strings and a shorter scale-length on the higher-pitched strings, just like a piano. They are very comfortable to play and you don't even notice it while you're playing (unless you look down!). I think they're awesome.
     
  8. gweimer

    gweimer Guest

    Apr 6, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    My fan fret project bass is probably one of the best sounding basses I've ever had. It's essentially a Precision with a Novax neck on it. The neck was actually designed to drop into a standard Precision body. You can check them out at www.novaxguitars.com
     
  9. Truktek2

    Truktek2

    Sep 5, 2008
    Queens, NY
    Ok, so now you guys have officially "ruined" the trick! :) makes sense, but is there that much of a difference? It hasn't seemed to have caught on much (if its even been around that long) also any playability issues switching back and forth from a standard bass?
     
  10. The strings all have the same tension, which helps a lot. Also, the fret follow the natural fanning of your fretting hand (I heard this on here, not sure how true it is).
    There probably will be playability issues switching back and forth, but I think most people who buy em, don't go back :eek:
     
  11. TrooperFarva

    TrooperFarva Guest

    Nov 25, 2004
    New City, NY
    Question for those with fanned frets.

    Bends past the 12th fret on the lower strings. Does the note go flat, instead of sharp with a typical bend? Do you have to bend towards the lower strings to prevent that?
     
  12. I was thinking about this as well...

    Would increased tension sharpen the note more than the fret is lengthening it? And this would result in a 'slower' bend? You could go the other way... before the 12th bend towards the E and above the 12th pull down...

    But then on the G string you are left a bit high and dry....
    :help:
     
  13. gweimer

    gweimer Guest

    Apr 6, 2000
    Columbus, OH

    As was posted here before I went to the fanfret, it truly takes less than a minute to be comfortable with the neck. I sometimes have a minute adjustment going back to a normal neck, but I play a few of my basses a lot, and I always bring 2 to a gig, so I spend time on my normal frets often enough that I don't lose my feel. Still, the Bettie Page is my main bass by far, and I've got a few nice basses to pick from.
     
  14. mattcampbell

    mattcampbell Guest

    Dec 20, 2008
    woaah that's trippy... i almost passed out O_O