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Slap on carved top (hybrid) bass

Discussion in 'Rockabilly [DB]' started by AlBass, Dec 6, 2019.

  1. AlBass


    Aug 19, 2018
    From my research so far, it seems most people use a laminate bass for playing slap. I am somewhat leaning towards a hybrid bass for my impending purchase, as I want to use it for other music too, where I feel a laminate bass will be too harmonically "flat."
    So my question - I want to play slap, but won't be standing on the bass or throwing it around in any extreme way. Is there any reason NOT to use a hybrid for slap, other than robustness? Surely many of those early rock n roll players were using carved basses? All opinions greatly received!
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  2. Here's the great Milt Hinton slapping on a super nice and old carved bass (I'm forgetting its origins) with Spiros. I'd get the hybrid honestly. It won't negatively effect the slap tone and like you said it'll have a better sound for when you play other styles on that bass. While I don't play slap a lot, I have a Shen hybrid and I do sometimes slap on it when playing more old school jazz styles. It's definitely a richer tone compared to the more percussive sound of slapping on a plywood with either guts or gut like strings.
  3. AlBass


    Aug 19, 2018
    Thank you @Sean Riddle, that is super helpful, and encouraging. And beautiful little chunk of Milt too, thank you for sharing that. I feel confident now, and will be going to look at basses in a couple of days.
    Best wishes
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  4. I have a Thompson RM200 hybrid that BOTH rocks AND rolls...

    I think you’ll be happy with the increased possibilities of a hybrid for it's versatility.

    Good luck with whatever you finally choose.
  5. AlBass


    Aug 19, 2018
    Thank you @Fretless55 , my decision is made! Going to view 4 hybrids on Sunday. Really appreciate the input
  6. Trimmo91


    Apr 29, 2015
    I don't play slap necessarily bit I do play rock and roll. Sound from my Hungarian hybrid is great and really boomy. Issue is feedback and controlling it. Fdeck hpf or a preamp with a hpf is best. I use a Sansamp paradriver with it's rumble filter. Thefm filter is too strong and removed a lot of punch unless I crank the bass control fully.

    I love my hybrid
  7. AlBass


    Aug 19, 2018
    Thank you for feedback on feedback Trimmo91 !
    I now have an old Strunal Laminate which I'm super happy with. Just preferred it over the 3 hybrids the guy had. Pickups will be the next mission, so Im grateful for your input.
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  8. Hey good for you!
    I had a Strunal once, it was a great workhorse that worked especially well amplified.

    (Bass max PU , fdeck hpf, GK 200MB combo)
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  10. Trimmo91


    Apr 29, 2015
    Glad to hear that you got a bass that's right for you.

    I love my hybrid but in terms of pickups. My experience has been that a realist is pretty much a no go as it's so prone to feedback. I use a kna db1 or a bassmax clone. These two through the paradriver with the rumble filter engaged works well except if I'm on a wooden stage. Then I have to lay out some carpet. Bare in mind I use a di preamp and in ear monitoring to reduce any risk of feedback. No speakers aimed towards me and the bass at all and feedback can still be an issue. But mainly have issues with wooden stages.
  11. AlBass


    Aug 19, 2018
    Wow Trimmo ... Im anxious about the feedback thing, especially as Im a new player. Only done electric gigs before.
    In ear is a great idea. I also dont know where to start with that. Theres a learning curve ahead for sure

    @Fretless55 what a beautiful picture!
    Last edited: Jan 5, 2020
  12. Slapping on a hybrid or carved is not a problem by itself. But, slapping is often used in high volume enviroments, and then feedback is an issue. Most players find that carved and hybrids are more likely to feedback in these situations.
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  13. Off ya go buddy!

    I think you’re well set with the immediate gear situation ( the pick up, amp and knob twiddling is an ongoing headache...)

    But! Don’t ever let the music pass you by .

    Best of luck!
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  14. AlBass


    Aug 19, 2018
    Really appreciate both the advice and the fellowship on this forum. Thanks guys
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  15. I've got a carved bass.. use it for slapping.. high volume. Have tried alot of different pickup systems.. Landed on the Blast Cult Channel Blaster, great stuff :)
    Laminate might be easier, but it's possible with a carved bass.
  16. Arne Tomcat

    Arne Tomcat

    Jan 17, 2020
    I have been playing slap (Rockabilly, Rock'n'Roll, C&W and Bluegrass) for 35 yrs (mostly laminated, though) and in my opinion the Shadow SH950 through a Fishman preamp (Platinum) gives a good sound in all frequencies. With a decent preamp you should be able to eliminate the most present feedback sources/frequencies. The Shadow pick-up is afordable and durable. I use Spirocore strings, and they give a nice sustain as well as a punchy slap sound.
  17. AlBass


    Aug 19, 2018
    Thank you for the info @Arne Tomcat ... Do you have a transducer on the fingerboard as well as the bridge?
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  18. yousaiditman

    yousaiditman Supporting Member

    Jan 23, 2011
    I play a blast cult 145 and had a second removable sound post made, so depending on the gig I can install the second sound post myself. EQ'ing out feedback is fine, but if you are playing with a loud band and want that "thump", the second sound post gives me more options and pretty much removes any feedback issues.
  19. dhergert

    dhergert Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 17, 2018
    Blue Zone, California
    Since we're talking about pickups for your new double bass (congratulations!!!), I'd highly recommend a glance at Vic's Pickups. These are designed and built by Zac Victor, a rockabilly slapper himself. I'm using his Model C, a dual-piezo set which provides both a bridge wing and fingerboard pickup system that is wired to plug into a 2-channel pre-amp (I'm using the K&K Dual Channel Pro ST).

    If you get a single-piezo set you may not absolutely have to get a pre-amp, but then you only get either bridge or fingerboard support, plus you miss out on features like EQ and gain control and more volume headroom. Adding the pre-amp gets you a lot of functionality.

    Vic's Pickups are priced remarkably low (so you can probably justify getting a pre-amp if desired), and the products and support are excellent (NFI).
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  20. DukeCC


    Nov 4, 2016
    Where can I get me one of those?

    Mine must have been ordered with a single sound post. I have been intending to add a second one, but the removable idea is intriguing!
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