I just wanted to clear a couple things up for some people that may come to this forum, looking for help, and a path. If you choose to slap an upright bass, or play music that you slap to, doesnt mean that you are sloppy. Stanley Clarke.... need I say more? For those of you, that choose to play different styles of music, and dont confine yourself to reading music, using a bow or just doing what is told of you, CHEERS to you. Dont feel like you are bad, because some idiots on this board can dish it out, but cant take it. You can take my membership and stick up your tight ass. Maybe then you will loosin up. Just because you may have went to school for upright, doesnt make you better then anyone else. I can tell you this much, you have no passion. Passion is learning, you my friends have no clue. Thats the feeling this forum gives. You are not true musicians, your what Ray Brown calls amatures. I have seen alot of your style players, just stand their with their heads down in the music. Its sad.