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Small Venues / FOH or no FOH

Discussion in 'Live Sound [BG]' started by Helix, Dec 10, 2019.

  1. Yes

    138 vote(s)
  2. No

    48 vote(s)
  3. Carrots

    8 vote(s)
  1. Helix

    Helix California U.S.A.

    May 29, 2015
    Small Venues, lets say 150 person capacity or less......do you prefer FOH or not?

    Looking for thoughts on this

    Small Bands - e.g., Trio's
    Big Bands - e.g., w/Horn Section / Keys
    Loud Rock Bands
    Acoustic Bands
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  2. Roland GR 88

    Roland GR 88

    Sep 16, 2013
    Always if possible. Even a little is usually better than none. IMO
  3. Helix

    Helix California U.S.A.

    May 29, 2015
    Personally as long as the singer / singers have PA support, I prefer no FOH.....I think running everything through monitors and subs kind of kills the tone / timbre the band tries to get......it gets to be more of a generic sound

    But that's just me....I voted no
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2019
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  4. Leonid Nidis

    Leonid Nidis

    Jan 1, 2018
    Speaking as an audience member,I Never heard a venue(specially a small one) filled right when guitars and bass are not sent through PA.Its always unbalanced depending on where you stand.
    Best IMO is amps for monitoring,PA for the audience.
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  5. Jebberz

    Jebberz Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Jul 3, 2012
    Quebec city
    I always FOH, and ampless. I found out that sometimes my amp was interfering with FOH (especially in small venues) so I made the switch to In-ears. Took me some time to adapt though, but worth it at the end.
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  6. We're a trio, with bass/guitar/cajon so FOH of some kind is a necessity to carry the cajon.
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  7. Helix

    Helix California U.S.A.

    May 29, 2015
    ^^Like^^…….I've seriously been thinking about doing the same
  8. jerry

    jerry Too old for a hiptrip Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 13, 1999
    FOH almost always.
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  9. I prefer full PA - but only if it’s done well, and if budget allows it.... which seldom happens.
  10. Helix

    Helix California U.S.A.

    May 29, 2015
    This quote reminded me of this pic I took of a sound guy in San Diego

    sound guy I.jpg
  11. DirtDog


    Jun 7, 2002
    Same....last couple of years that I gigged.
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  12. micguy


    May 17, 2011
    I haven't played a gig without a FOH person in.....about 15 years. Several hundred with a FOH person since then, so I guess I'm pro FOH.
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  13. Samatza


    Apr 15, 2019
    This is the best way to go for small venues, well any size venue really.

    We do it exactly like this, straight into FOH and monitoring via IEM.
    We found the sound out front is more controllable and much clearer without amps from stage interfering.
    We received lots of compliments on our sound since going this route.
  14. Hundred proof

    Hundred proof

    Apr 22, 2018
    In one great venue I play everything is house BUT the bass ... great sound in there
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  15. arbiterusa


    Sep 24, 2015
    San Diego, CA
    If it's a five person venue I'd prefer FOH. I'm not going to get it, but I'd prefer it. Under any and all circumstances.
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  16. Hundred proof

    Hundred proof

    Apr 22, 2018
    On the stage wall at one of the Beale street venues we play

  17. fjbass78


    Jun 21, 2007
    of course vocals go through the PA, and we may mic up the guitar and maybe send the keyboards through the mixer, but never bass and drums.
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  18. Esteban Garcia

    Esteban Garcia living la vida loca Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2018
    Portland, OR
    Seconded. FOH is always preferable. Ampless with IEMs if possible.
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  19. Went to a small combo just for a monitor and now I go through the PA. I can eq it to sit in the mix with the kick better.
  20. Helix

    Helix California U.S.A.

    May 29, 2015
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