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Smaller, Lighter, Cheaper, Gooder

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by njfrese, Jun 12, 2019.


  1. njfrese

    njfrese

    Jun 7, 2010
    South Jersey
    Most of the gigs I am going to be doing going forward are on bigger stages with house PA systems. So the sound going out to FOH is gonna be from the bass bins, not my amp. I've seen a few guys who go NO amp, and use in-ears to get all their monitored bass sound (don't think I'm ready for that yet). I am currently using a Little Mark II head with an Epifani 2x10 cabinet. I love the Epifani, yet it seems kinda pointless in such a setup. I want to get smaller and lighter on the cabinet, but I have no clue what the move would be. Single 12"? Two 8's? Something else? I don't want to go to the poor house on this one, and I intend to keep the Epifani for smaller, non-House PA types of gigs. The Little Mark II is fine, being only five pounds. Any brilliant ideas??
     
  2. jlepre

    jlepre

    Nov 12, 2007
    Cedar Knolls, NJ
    The TE Elf 2x8 seems like a good candidate as a stage monitor. I have one, and I used it once as my main rig with my Genzler MG800 without FOH to run a small room.
     
  3. njfrese

    njfrese

    Jun 7, 2010
    South Jersey
    I considered that, but I think it is 16 ohm. Do you know if that will fly with the Little Mark II head?? I think the head will drive 4 ohm or 8 ohm cabinets.
     
  4. FunkHead

    FunkHead Supporting Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Is the Epifani bigger than most other 2x10's? Otherwise a 2x10 is already pretty tiny, Especially used vertically.
     
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  5. njfrese

    njfrese

    Jun 7, 2010
    South Jersey
    It's not huge. About 38 pounds and I guess the width is pretty typical of your average 2x10 cabinet.
     
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  6. jlepre

    jlepre

    Nov 12, 2007
    Cedar Knolls, NJ
    Well that head is 300 watts at 8 ohms, so I would say that it should be fine.
     
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  7. njfrese

    njfrese

    Jun 7, 2010
    South Jersey
    Cool. I am not up on all this ohm matching stuff. Guess I'll drop into Guitar Center and give that puppy a play. I know Markbass also makes some small cabinets, 1x12 stuff. I guess I could see what they look like while I'm at it.
     
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  8. kpc

    kpc

    Apr 6, 2011
    GK micro bass amp 150. Very small one 12" speaker and a great XLR out to the board. A rock solid amp. They also have an extension speaker 112 available.
     
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  9. Gravedigger Dav

    Gravedigger Dav Supporting Member

    Mar 13, 2014
    Fort Worth, Texas
    For gigs like that, I use a Fender Rumble 100 on a kick back stand. Works well for me. It is post EQ only, but I've never had a sound man give me any grief over it.
     
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  10. jlepre

    jlepre

    Nov 12, 2007
    Cedar Knolls, NJ
    Why are you telling me?
     
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  11. Lovep

    Lovep Supporting Member

    Mar 17, 2011
    Indianapolis, IN
    I think a single 210 with enough juice (100-400w) would be plenty for hearing yourself on stage.
     
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  12. njfrese

    njfrese

    Jun 7, 2010
    South Jersey
    Anybody ever try this thing? Trace Elliott Elf 1x10. Only 16 lbs.
     
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  13. mojomike001

    mojomike001

    Mar 28, 2013
    South Florida
    I love my Markbass 102p at 28 pounds.
     
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  14. bass_case

    bass_case Maintain low tones. Supporting Member

    Oct 23, 2013
    Miami, FL
    I’m using an Aguilar SL112 and that little cab gets quite loud with good bottom for its size. Only 25 lbs, so very portable. With the GK 500 fusion it’s plenty of amp for small venues and should work well in your application.
     
  15. jthisdell

    jthisdell Supporting Member

    Jun 12, 2014
    Roanoke, VA
    A 112 is not really that much smaller than a 210.

    I have a Berg CN112 which is 28 pounds 16*18*15
    and a Berg CN210 that is 33 pounds 22*18*12

    So the 112 is approx 10% smaller volume wise and 17% lighter. The 210 is easier to carry IMHO as it is well balanced and the form factor makes it maybe a bit easier to hear at a gig as it sits up a tad more. Also a tad easier to adjust my head as it sits up a bit higher. They both sound great, the 112 has a tad more bottom, the 210 tends to cut through the mix a tad better. The 210 handles a bit more power (400w v. 0350 w) and has a tiny bit better sensitivity (99 v 98) but in a gig they both work fine, better than fine, great. (The CN is a slightly older model replaced by the current HDN line.) Occasionally I will get to use them both but not very often.

    I also have a Barefaced One10 which is significantly smaller and lighter at 16 pounds 15*11*11. It is super portable and great for shlepping up stairs, etc but honestly I like the sound of the Bergs better.
     
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  16. njfrese

    njfrese

    Jun 7, 2010
    South Jersey
    Bergs were without question the best sounding cabinets I ever played through. I tried a 4x10 when I was shopping for my Epifani, and it was just awesome. Just didn't wanna go for $1300 at that point in time!
     
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  17. The design of the berg cab is exceptional. They design properly using ts properties that should suit most typical higher end bass drivers, some more than others of course. I heard my exact driver model both in my cab (traynor, excellent but simplistic ported cab) and a berg.... at same time, same amp (my pf350).

    Berg was noticeably louder and fuller at at same amp settings (weren't touched).

    Clearly several db louder in midbass while still having same overall tone.... just more, where it counts.

    It was also a bit heavier, but still pretty light.

    More volume is good. No more effort for driver or amp... probably less effort by driver actually if i recall my speaker physics at all.
     
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  18. I have an old Aguilar GS 1x12.
    It weights about 40 lbs. so...
     
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  19. smaller/lighter, cheaper, better. Pick two.
     
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  20. obimark

    obimark

    Sep 1, 2011
    I own one but I don't gig with it- Love it for what I do though, great tone.
     
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