"Smallish" cabs for big tube heads?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by fishstix, Jul 21, 2009.

  1. fishstix


    Feb 28, 2006
    What "smallish" cabs (non-810, 610, 412, 215) are you having luck with when running big (200-400 watt) tube heads?

    I'm thinking about schlepping my SVT-CL around again and have a couple cab options but I'm wondering what other people are having luck with. My 810 will be staying home for all but the biggest outdoor gigs. Thus, I'll probably be running it with either a Mesa PH 212 or a Schroeder 21012R (I like both cabs). However, there's always the ability to move some gear for another cab if it seems a lot of people are having luck with it.

    So what do you like?
  2. Sundogue


    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    I like Peavey 7240's myself. ;)

    Even though they sound great with tube heads, they're only suitable for polite coffee house jazz gigs. :D

  3. While my Peavey VB-2 just squeaks in at 225 watts, I only use one cab for all venues - my Genz Benz neox212. It's kinda funny when the cab is a lot lighter than the head. Look for something with neo drivers. Best at the end of the night and the dreaded teardown.
  4. Pitbull Growl

    Pitbull Growl

    Jan 6, 2009
    I have nothing intelligent or even pertinent to contribute to this thread. Sorry.

    That being said... Anyone else see the irony of "fishstix" looking for "Smallish" cabs, and "fishsticks" rocking the dual 3620's?
  5. RickenBoogie


    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Either of the 2 cabs mentioned, (Schroe 21012, or PH212) should be just fine. I'm about to switch over from a 215 rig to a 212 rig myself.
  6. fishstix


    Feb 28, 2006
    Ha, that is funny. Although, about a decade ago I wouldn't have flinched at the thought of bringing my 810 and 2 JBL 18" cabs. These days, I am a bit limited by the small family car (no more truck) and far too few hours of sleep to manage the beasts on a regular basis.

    I do like the 21012R and the 212 I have, just wondering what others are giging with. The 212 does have neo speakers but due to Mesa's impeccable build standards it's still a hefty cab for what it is. Plus, I need to do a speaker swap on it as it's currently an 8 ohm cab. I've tried it with my SVT but don't want to risk things by doing that on a regular basis (it's not designed to run at 8 just 4 and 2).

    I may well leave good enough alone. However, I'm always curious what others are doing.
  7. SwitchGear


    Mar 23, 2005
    Sunny Beach
  8. Sundogue


    Apr 26, 2001
    Wausau, WI
    Hmmm...I guess everyone failed to see the humor in my "7240" recommendation. :meh:
  9. greenboy


    Dec 18, 2000
    remote mountain cabin Montana
    greenboy designs: fEARful, bassic, dually, crazy88 etc
    We just thought you got Van Halen's address wrong.
  10. michele


    Apr 2, 2004
    I'm moving to the same direction from the opposite side as I'm planning to buy an Orange AD200 to use with my Accugroove Tri112L cab which, as many of you already know, is a 12" + 6" + 2 tweeters. The cab is extremely efficient and just fine to carry around at 38 lbs. Any comments about this setup will be appreciated ...
  11. greenboy


    Dec 18, 2000
    remote mountain cabin Montana
    greenboy designs: fEARful, bassic, dually, crazy88 etc
    I'm not real fond of any type of a tweeter with tube instrument amps. Tweeters tend to highlight noise and hiss with tube heads which basically don't have a very good s/n, and when you overdrive they sound kind of nasty. Otherwise, you are fine with the woof and tweet.
  12. johnnydenver


    Apr 14, 2008
    new ones are garbage - mine literally came apart at the seems with light usage under an svt-cl. good sounding cab, but not pro gear anymore.

    feel obligated to warn...
  13. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    First off, you shouldn't run an 8 ohm cab with a CL, which needs a 4 or 2 ohm load. Second, the 15E has a 200w power handling rating, which really means closer to 100w. So I'm not surprised your CL shredded it.
  14. lomo

    lomo passionate hack Supporting Member

    Apr 15, 2006

    I've used my AD200B with Epi UL115, UL210 and both together. The stack is great, but the 210 is a good compromise. The 15 alone is quite boomy on its' own at gig volume.
  15. andyrennich


    Jul 16, 2009
    North Dakota
    I am looking forward to receiving my new cabs in the mail this week. I got an Ampeg SVT-15 and an SVT-210. I have owned several Ampeg cabs in the past and I would never think twice about purchasing another. They are the best. I'm also not surprised that your SVT-15 blew up with such a powerful head that was improperly "loaded".
  16. I played with an Ampeg SVT-15e, a new one. Firstly, i was astonished by how light it was, there was nothing to it, it felt disappointingly cheap. I didn't like it personally, sound wise either.

    I plugged into an Trace Elliot 215 and savoured the sound, oh it was just lovely. It just shows you that we're all very different in our tastes.
  17. Hi.

    A Laney 4*10" with my Fame BVH300.

    200W head, and the cab is 400W IIRC, equipped with Celestion somethings.

  18. michele


    Apr 2, 2004
    Well, you can totally turn the tweeters off on the Accugroove ...
  19. etb67

    etb67 Far Out Supporting Member

    Oct 12, 2005
    Been playing my SVT II through a single Schroeder 1212R. I was in the same situation as the op. I love that big Ampeg tube head, but don't have a vehicle that can transport a big cab. So I went with the Schroeder. Easy to transport, and sounds surprisingly good with the Ampeg.
  20. rpsands


    Jul 6, 2007
    A fEarful with no tweeter would demolish stuff I am sure :)