I noticed Ray talking about a New York Jazz club and so I put this question here.... Last Friday it was a pretty hot evening and I went to a really good gig at my local Jazz club - the place was absolutely packed out - standing room only, no chance to move and the room was getting more and more airless ... Then the guy right by me, lights up this enormous cigar and proceeded to blow smoke at me for the next 20 minutes continuously... :scowl: Why do people want less air when it's hot and stuffy? Then yesterday I heard a debate on the radio, about smoking in public places as the British government is considering this and a person came on who said he'd been to the US for his holiday and how it was so nice not to have smoke in clubs wherever he went and it was a real holiday from smoky rooms in the UK. So - what is it like in Jazz clubs, bars etc. in the US - is there a complete ban on smoking? What effect has it had? Do you prefer it, or has something of the "atmosphere" of clubs been lost?