After returning my MIM jazz (fretted)that was missing a saddle last Sunday...i got the idea to pick up fretless jazz at the store. In the store over all the noise it sounded great and i loved the feel and smoothness. well....got it home and the easy baselines i played were full of slipping around and sharp and flat notes messing it up, also no spunk or punch. After two days of playing I said forget it .Took it back to GC walked out with my last fretted jazz and i think it is the best sounding one to date.You guys were right, it takes a great ear and a more advanced player to understand the fretless. I really think they will make you a better player in the long run ...but i just cant stand thems no more.