So,we like hi-fidelity...well some of us do.

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by VS, Jan 7, 2009.

  1. VS


    Jun 6, 2002
    Mountain City, Tennessee
    Discounted Gear: Peavey
    In the 11 years that I've played bass,I find myself trying to achieve that hi-fi sound. I play Peavey Cirrus
    (USA) six s
    tring basses powered by Peavey power amps and Trace Elliot cabs. I've owned and played alot of amps and basses. This is my home. Never have I felt so close to a "perfect" sound. I know we all have different outlooks on sound and tone and basses and effects and what not,but we all have to agree on what sounds good. While I love the sound of a passive, tube,vintage,well rounded sound; I have to realize that I'm indebted to active sound. I use tube pre-amps with solid-state power and meet in the middle somewhere. Maybe some of you know where I stand. -Luke
  2. Deluge Of Sound

    Deluge Of Sound Inactive

    Nov 8, 2007
    Why do we all have to agree on what sounds good?
  3. tycobb73


    Jul 23, 2006
    Grand Rapids MI
    My take on the Cirrus

    Best feeling bass out there

    Second worse sounding bass out there (to any Spector)

    But that's why its a free world
  4. While my main bass is a nice Warwick Bolt-on, I switch back to my Fender Frankenstein bass (all sorts of parts from all sorts of Fenders) all the time. It just plain feels good to play...

    This thread's topic is better suited to my taste in amps. While I do have a good rig, I never complain about some crappy backlined amps (except when they're underpowered or inappropriately sized for the gig). Usually, the other bass players will whine about the equipment, whereas in the back of my head I'm always thinking "quit your whining and just play!"
  5. I thought this was going to be about recordings...


    So someone was talking about how the production on the Beatles stuff sounds dated but the stuff like the Beach Boys and the Stones' stuff sounds better 40 years down the line. I don't agree with that.

    There's a give and take with any sort of instrument/rig setup. For me, it's passive pickups and a high powered SS rig. I like active pickups in a live setting- more "cut." But as far as a recorded tone- that 'cut' doesn't translate into sitting in the mix where I want it to. By the same token, running any bass through a tube rig is just to "soft" around the edges for what I want to hear.

  6. Pilgrim

    Pilgrim Supporting Member

    I don't need hi-fi when I play. I use it to listen to recorded music.

    When I play, I want to be Duck Dunn or Jack Bruce. And if you've ever listened to Jack Bruce in his Cream days, he was the farthest thing from hi-fi you could imagine.
  7. LongHairFreak

    LongHairFreak Insert cool nickname? Nobody's given me one yet. Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2006
    Twin Cities - MN
    Man, I can't settle on one over the other. Sometimes a Spector into a GK w/a Schroeder cab is the coolest.
    But, then hearing a '51 P on a Mesa amp pushing an EV loaded MB 2x15 just... HOO-YAH!

    Am I alone in wanting everything??
  8. Jazz Ad

    Jazz Ad Mi la ré sol

    What does hi-fi mean when it comes to bass playing ? I know what it usually refers to, but really ?
    Hi-fi for a sound reproduction system means as true to the source as possible. No argument here.
    What's the meaning of this for a bass system ? True to what ? The zingy sound of the strings ? The lowless tone of the unamplified instrument ? The output signal from the bass, regardless of what the pickup does ?
    It is a vague concept isn't it ?
  9. Deluge Of Sound

    Deluge Of Sound Inactive

    Nov 8, 2007
    I tend to think of the phrase Hi-Fi, when attributed to cabs, amps, and basses, as the opposite of the Motown sound, and that's generally been a decent guide when I hear people discuss it or read threads on it. Uncolored is another way to put it, I suppose.

    Which is why I disagree with the initial statement--if I woke up tomorrow with a hi-fi tone, I'd bawl my eyes out.
  10. Good point.

    I think a lot of bassists favor the vintage flavor and a small amount will favor hi-fi. An even smaller amount like me enjoys it all. ;)

    No doubt that the Cirrus is a very comfortable bass and is quite capable of action that's only available on boutique basses that cost twice as much. In the used department, there is no better value period!
  11. Phalex

    Phalex Semper Gumby Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    G.R. MI
    The Cirrus is a great instrument, but they just don't work for me. A friend of mine plays a 5 string Cirrus, and I like what he does with it a lot. I'm not so enthusiastic about the tone when I'm the guy playing it however.

    I guess I'm a lo-fi passive type of guy.
  12. stflbn


    May 10, 2007
    I always end up with a Modern Hi-Fi sounding rig. Right now GenzBenz NeoPak, Pedalboard, and two different modded Schecter basses with custom Kent Armstrong pickups and Aguilar OBP-3 preamps. One HH and one J/MM config.

    Probably a combination of all the parts more than anything for me.
  13. mwiles30


    Dec 31, 2008
    Cincinnati, OH
    I know people that I consider Hi-Fi. They don't buy anything that isn't "boutique".

    I mean, I know the owner of a $100 cable, saying it has a broader frequency range.

    But has anyone lookied at the wire INSIDE your bass recently? It might be different on a really expensive Alembic or Fodera, but the wire inside is typically far from Hi-Fi.
  14. Deluge Of Sound

    Deluge Of Sound Inactive

    Nov 8, 2007
    To elaborate, I always think of this clip when I think of "Hi-Fi" bass tone.

    Jeff's a fantastic player, to be sure, and his tone totally works for him, but, like Phalex, that sound doesn't work for me as a bassist.
  15. SteveC


    Nov 12, 2004
    NE ND
    We don't all have to agree, that's why there is so much gear out there. However, I was just thinking the same thing. All this talk about old school, tube, vintage, etc. makes me wonder if I'm the only one who likes my "hi-fi" or "modern" tone. Active bass, SS amp, etc.
  16. LongHairFreak

    LongHairFreak Insert cool nickname? Nobody's given me one yet. Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2006
    Twin Cities - MN

    I agree--I consider that hi-fi and for me as a bassist, that sound doesn't work. However, that is some of the most amazing jammin' I've ever heard!