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Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by okcrum, May 4, 2021 at 6:13 AM.
Karen Carpenter was an amazing musician, who had to be coaxed out from behind the drums. Richard was a good composer and pianist. But they found what sold.
Can’t say that I’ve given it much thought. In fact, I try not to think about anything that was later termed ‘yacht rock’. Yes, pretty voice, but the Carpenters always struck me as what Richard Nixon would have wanted youth culture to have been.
The Carpenters did not “rock”.
I was around when their hits were new records on the charts, and after Zeppelin, et al, like a lot of us, I tended to write them off as impossibly un-hip, square, etc.
Over time, I have come to really, really appreciate her voice, Richard's craftsmanship on those exceptionally tight charts, and rue her unfortunate end with her eating disorder. That voice is one in a million. It's easy to take pot shots that they made 'commercial' records, but I don't think Page and Plant or anyone else was going to turn down 'the money' for, ahem, artistic integrity.
They put out well-crafted songs and had amazing vocals (both Karen and Richard). Their harmonies were SO tight and, like Queen, Boston, et al, did them without autotune. Think about that the next time you listen to one of their songs.
I think the Captain and Tennille were proto yacht rock. I mean, he was a captain. He had the hat to prove it.
Her voice was like none other — IMHO "Close To You" and "We've Only Just Begun" are her zenith. And damn straight she could k'nock them drums.
Poor Karen never had a chance. I read the bio Little Girl Blue some years ago and cried pretty much all the way through it.
Yes, that is what they were.
In the current era in which people are famous for being famous, without necessarily being talented or even nice to look at, it can be hard to imagine a time when entertainers mostly had both (the Monkees notwithstanding).
The Carpenters undoubtedly had real chops, but so did almost every act at that level at that time. Imagine!
As a teen I pretty much wrote them off as bad.
But as I grew older and learned what it takes to get a good reputation, I realized you'd have to be clueless to not see the talent they had. And this was back in the "pre-tech" days before all the enhancements could be purchased relatively cheaply. Great harmonies, catchy songs, they earned the acclaim they got as musicians.
They found what sells and put it out. Nothing wrong with that.
All four of the tempos they played that song in were great.
Seriously kinda cool though.
You're all stiff and proper and old-fashioned.
And Victoria? Is she not proper?
She likes to pretend she's rock'n'roll, but she's a Carpenters kind of chick for sure.
Do you mean to say that she has a penchant for woodworkers?
The Carpenters are musicians, stupid.
-Dark Shadows, 2012
I loved the Carpenters even back when it wasn't cool... Karen had a voice from heaven and the harmonies were awesome, as was her drumming. Such a shame she died so young. A real musical talent.
Carpenters were one of my top three influences, the other two being Rush and Yes. And probably the best trained and knowledgeable musicians of the three.
Fight me if you must.
My guilty pleasure while in high school in the mid 70s. Carpenter, Fifth Dimension, Burt Bacharach, Tijuana Brass...all good music. I still listen to music from that period on Spotify. Some great bass work on those recordings. Beautiful harmonies.
The Carpenters pretty much defined what came to be known as "soft rock" between the end of the sixties and the advent of disco. It was its own genre, with many really good ballads by many good artists, which unfortunately can get lost under some of the syrup that also came out of that era.
how'd you like to be that bass player and have some idiot announcer butcher your name on television.
They also had that whole muskrat thing going....
Yeah, years ago I viewed it as cheesy and too mellow. Now, it is really awesome music with such fine musicianship and great arrangements... Backed up by Joe Osborn on bass, of course!
My favorite was when they covered a klaatu song.
Carpenters - Calling Occupants Of Interplanetary Craft (Full Version) - YouTube
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