Some thoughts on the T.C. Electronic SCF Chorus+

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by bongomania, Dec 3, 2007.

  1. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    I used to own one of these years ago, and I no longer recall exactly why I sold it. Probably just bills to pay. So I was in the market for another chorus and reading everyone's chorus reviews and the thing that kept popping up positively for the T.C. Electronic was its low noise. Noise is my "Moby Dick", or perhaps the crocodile from Peter Pan... so even though people consistently said the T.C. sounded a bit thin and not lush, I decided to buy another one just for the low noise factor.

    I found one on Ebay that was in "new" condition but which the seller clearly stated needed some repair (the effect did not engage when switched "on"). I picked it up for like $125 IIRC, thinking it would be a simple fix, like connecting a loose wire or a single bad component that I could find. His description was exactly accurate, the unit was flawless except for not producing any effect.

    So I opened it up, or tried to: all of the screws were Locktited down so hard I ended up stripping all of them just trying to get the baseplate off! Once I got the base off I found it was necessary to unscrew all of the jacks, switches, and pots, which also entailed removing the knob caps. Even the knob caps proved almost impossible to remove! I ended up marring all of them with a pair of pliers trying to tug them off. Then amusingly it turns out the knob caps are in two pieces, and the pieces are held together with these tiny plastic nubbins, which naturally broke off when I was removing the caps. I finally got the whole thing apart, and proceeded to audio-probe the circuit. Nothing! No effect signal anywhere, and no place where the dry signal cut on/off or changed in any way when I clicked the footswitch, even though the LED did go on/off!

    So after a couple of hours I gave up and emailed T.C. tech support. They said no problem, just give us the serial number and your credit card number ( :eek: :eek: ) and we'll fix it. I sent it off, and two weeks later it came back all fixed. For a $105 flat rate fee. :eek: The tech note said they replaced the entire circuitboard.

    Moral of this part of the story: don't buy a T.C. pedal that "needs work"!!!

    As to the sound, I concur with all the reviews I read: the actual chorus effect is very clean but a bit thin or even sterile, and not lush. The noise floor is the lowest I have ever heard from any chorus pedal. There are two other very positive things to report: one is that the chorus has a more complex cycle than the usual up-down swoosh, so it is more interesting to hear, more "natural" and less obviously a chorus effect than the standard swooshers. The other thing is the lows are killer! Not only does it not roll off any lows, but they are mighty and massive sounding!

    In short, I highly recommend the sound for somebody who likes a big, tight, clean, modern tone. I would not recommend it for somebody who likes vintage-y warmth or swirly fatness... although I bet it would combine well with a tube amp, not getting too muddy in the end result.

    The footswitch is not "true bypass" but the bypassed tone is very clean.
     
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  2. benevan

    benevan Supporting Member

    May 2, 2002
    Texas
    Great review, sounds like this thing is right up my alley.

    Despite all of the hassle, you still ended up paying less than a new one, for basically a new unit. I presume that TC replaced the knobs and screws along with the circuit board.
     
  3. bongo bongo bongo, what a funny story dude. hilarity:D glad you got one that works and were able to give a review.
     
  4. fishtx

    fishtx Supporting Member

    Mar 30, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Endorsing Artist: Genzler Amplification/Spector Basses/Mojo Hand FX
    nice review bongo!...I have been using the SCF (Chorus +) for a few months now and really like it. I like a very subtle, almost invisible chorus effect, and this fits me perfectly...and as you mentioned...it's dead quiet!

    I don't use the flange or pitch mod effects on this box at all...but having said that, I think the flange is a very nice...VERY SUBTLE...flange effect. Not for someone who likes heavier flanging, but (IMO), it's not as bad as some have said...
     
  5. MikeBass

    MikeBass Suspended Supporting Member

    Nov 4, 2003
    Royal, Oak, MI.
    Endorsing artist- Suhr basses, PedalTrain, GHS, Ultimate Ears
    My all time fav chorus pedal.
    I'm gonna get another one when I get the chance (my old one was stolen back in like 91!!!)
     
  6. RickenBoogie

    RickenBoogie

    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Nice review, and very tempting pedal. I've been through more chorus pedals than anything else. Most are noisey, sometimes, too noisey. I do really like the Ehx Stereo Clone Theory, but the hiss is almost too much. Waiting on the Mistress, first one was bad, had to send it back. Should finally be in my hands this week. Maybe I need to check this TC unit out, huh? Thanks again.
     
  7. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Switzerland
    I think Jazz Ad is a fan :)
     
  8. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    I did some more listening last night, and I have a clearer idea about the LFO cycle. It's not really "more complex" as I wrote above, it's just a different shape, a ramp-up sawtooth wave instead of the usual triangle wave.

    For the non-technical folks: that means instead of the chorus swoosh being exactly even and smooth, with the swoosh up and swoosh down being the same length and the same shape, with the T.C. the swoosh sweeps up and then drops sharply to the "down" level and then swooshes up again.

    At any rate, it's still cool because the chorusing action sounds different from most other choruses.
     
  9. brandonwong

    brandonwong

    Dec 16, 2003
    I'm using the EBS Unichorus and currently thinking of switching to the TC version.
    Only thing i didnt like the EBS is "a little goes a long way" and its tough to find precise settings i like.

    Any thoughts on comparison between the two?
     
  10. fishtx

    fishtx Supporting Member

    Mar 30, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Endorsing Artist: Genzler Amplification/Spector Basses/Mojo Hand FX
    Hey Bongo...Have you hooked up the SCF in "stereo" mode and given it a listen? I use mine in mono mode, but have heard from more than one source that in stereo mode, this chorus really opens up and becomes a much "lusher" sounding unit (as I guess you would expect). I need to test this out myself, but just wondered if you have tried it and have any feedback...
     
  11. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    Not yet, but I'll give it a shot tonight. :bassist:
     
  12. JanusZarate

    JanusZarate Low End Avenger Supporting Member

    Feb 21, 2006
    Boise, ID, USA
    Don't forget soundclips! :p

    I'd like to see how this stands up to the noise-free chorus I'm more familiar with: the EHX Stereo Electric Mistress.
     
  13. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    Regrettably I'm not able to make soundclips at this time. I did try it out in stereo, and it's quite nice! I wouldn't say that it becomes "lush" or "creamy", but the sound does become "bigger", "more open", and having more perceived motion. It actually has a little bit of a reverb quality to it in stereo. It's addictive- when I clicked it off, my dry bass signal sounded like a clavinet to me!
     
  14. fishtx

    fishtx Supporting Member

    Mar 30, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Endorsing Artist: Genzler Amplification/Spector Basses/Mojo Hand FX
    cool...i need to give that a try...thx bongo...