Something weird with Warrior factory?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by pedulla-2007, Oct 13, 2021 at 11:59 AM.

  1. Joe BassPlayer

    Joe BassPlayer Supporting Member

    Aug 18, 2002
    warrior Fender style.jpeg

    That's a very unusual looking Warrior. I haven't seen one that looks that Fenderish (is that a word? :)).
    And the end of the fingerboard is a bit unusual too.
  2. ardgedee


    May 13, 2018
    Can you provide photos from headstock to tail?
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  3. The end of the fingerboard is very distinctive & they’d remember that I expect.
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  4. SirMjac28

    SirMjac28 Patiently Waiting For The Next British Invasion

    Aug 25, 2010
    The Great Midwest
    Just go to Guitar Center they'll give you a fair appraisal and you get 10% of any new items if you trade ;)
  5. pedulla-2007

    pedulla-2007 Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    C3895B2D-B4CD-45D2-933C-78B97DF9428B.jpeg View attachment 4437116
    I took it in a trade Dr., the pickup routing is clean, and the strings were through the body. But their indecisiveness has me baffled. I guess my dealings with builders, Ken Smith, and Keith Roscoe had me spoiled. They were always glad to offer any information on their builds. Thanks for chiming in Dr.!
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  6. Obese Chess

    Obese Chess Spicy Big Dad Supporting Member

    Sep 4, 2005
    Portland, OR
    the first one looked wacky until I saw it listed in the Classifieds here. The seller is still active on TB and may be able to answer your questions.
    TRADED - Warrior Jazz Bass, one of a kind, full jazz style body.

    EDIT: and the buyer posted above!

    EDIT 2: I AM ALL MIXED UP. That's YOUR bass. Sorry.

    As far as the other, I have seen it in the classifieds too and with no disrespect to that seller it looks very fishy to me.

    Last edited: Oct 13, 2021 at 6:48 PM
  7. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    Yes, that is a Warrior peghead. Maybe it is a Warrior neck on another body?
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  8. shnapper


    May 1, 2005
  9. pedulla-2007

    pedulla-2007 Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    We have some savy Talkbass members, and I was trying to sell one of the basses. There was an insinuation that I was misrepresenting a bass that I believed was a signature bass. Naturally I was surprised when I found out different, when Warrior couldn’t remember the build. They didn’t say they definitely didn’t build it, they said they couldn’t remember the build. If the person I bought the bass from, had given me total disclosure, I would have listed it differently. You seem like an intelligent person, I hope you can understand?
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  10. pedulla-2007

    pedulla-2007 Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    The first bass, my question was of the validity of it being a signature bass. The second bass I wanted a general idea of its value. If you go to the Warrior website, their cheapest bass is a “Messenger” at around 2,700. Even though my basses were older, I had priced them aroung 1699.00 which I felt was a more than gracious price for a quick sale. On multiple ocassions both Ken Smith and Keith Roscoe provided me with written provenance, and value, in the form of an email for insurance purposes, in case of fire or theft for replacement . Warrior was not capable of this courtesy.
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  11. Obese Chess

    Obese Chess Spicy Big Dad Supporting Member

    Sep 4, 2005
    Portland, OR
    I say this with no disrespect intended: the two basses you have listed did not/do not look like any Warrior instruments I have seen, and this may be why Warrior did not have records of having built them. Especially as one was listed as having been built for a member of Parliament/Funkadelic for the 100th NAMM show, I find it unlikely that they would not have a record of at least that one being built.
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  12. Dave W

    Dave W Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    White Plains
    I’m confused as to why you think they definitely have records from a build over 20 years ago.
    Maybe they’re not giving information because they have no information to give?
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  13. gln1955

    gln1955 Supporting Member

    Aug 25, 2014
    Ohio, USA
    Sorry, I think asking for an appraisal of a 20-year-old bass from the original builder is a bit much. Not their job.
  14. FunkHead

    FunkHead Supporting Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Not a big deal but Warrior’s don’t have that Sadowsky style string tree. Someone drilled two holes and installed it. The 1st pic sure looks like a Warmoth body. But maybe Warrior sourced it back in the day. I doubt it though.
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  15. shnapper


    May 1, 2005
    Not sure why folks on here are thinking a builder shouldn’t, couldn’t, can’t or not at least identify there own product after 20 years if someone at the company still remains after 2 decades.

    Hopefully it gets sorted out regardless of authenticity it’s important from a “classifieds” point of view. There’s a ton of basses for sale, trade, sell or trade and who knows what is what….
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  16. Ihaveshingles


    Dec 24, 2018
    I thought it was MTD lol
  17. Joe BassPlayer

    Joe BassPlayer Supporting Member

    Aug 18, 2002
    That’s a first!
    I’ve never played for a music director that even knew what a Ken Smith bass was!
  18. BBQisgood


    Feb 24, 2016
    I cannot recall Warrior making a body of that style in that vintage.
  19. pedulla-2007

    pedulla-2007 Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    This was an all black member church. The original bass player, played all over the world. He played a Smith and the director loved the way they fit in the mix. He and I worked together at GM, and he always invited me to his church. I went and bought a KS and failed miserably. Just wasn’t soulful enough. Each service was like a concert. When you get a chance check out Fred Hammond’s “Radical for Christ” youtube video.
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  20. pedulla-2007

    pedulla-2007 Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    I had never seen the body style before either. But I had sold all my MM’s and love the jazz bass body style. All they said was to send it to them, that it had been modified.
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