Now, before I get started, I am NOT in any way dissing musically competent songwriters who just happen to be primarily drummers. For example: Don Henley is a drummer. But he does most of his songwriting on guitar, and occasionally, piano. He is not, therefore, subject to the rant I have in my head just mow. So. Who has a drummer who writes songs without knowing what notes he is using? I suppose non-instrumentalist vocalists go in this bag, as well. My drummer had a cool idea for a song a while back. But the way he addressed it was to call the voicemails of the guitarist and me, and say "I need you to figure out how to play 'Nunnaaaaaaaaaaah nuh nuh nuh nunnuuuuh naaaah nuh nuh nuh nunnuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh nah.' I've got a great lyric already for it. So figure out that melody line, okay?" The 'melody' on the voice mail was a rhythmic string of F#'s. Really. And at practice, when he tried to describe it again, it was much like the Strongbad email where the dragon comes in the night. On the upside, when we figured out what he meant and actually put notes to it, he was so excited he could barely sit still. It was pretty funny. So. Who else has a drummer or vocalist that 'writes' songs without having a melodic clue?* *disclaimer: Greg used to play sax way back when, so he understands melody. He just doesn't reproduce a melody when he is trying to describe one. He did okay when we got him to sing the words. But when he tried to sing the tune without words, it was all the same note.