Sorry Schroeder Fans....

Is it possible with the size and design of that box? I would think that that's a major part of the Schroeder tone profile.

 

Can you be more specific than "high wattage flat speaker" which doesn't yield anything for me in a google search other than computer speakers...

 

The boxes tend to be too small for "flat" on the low end.

You could try 3012HOs - which seem to do very well in tiny boxes.

 

Not really.

 

That's pretty much what I was thinking. I have a 1212 and I really like it for what its designed for. But I'd never think of it as flat. Its too small a box and the interior volume is tiny, given the angled baffle. It hits like a sledge hammer though.

When using it alone I'd often end up with serious ear fatigue from its attack.

 

So, maybe the Schroeder cabs weren't what you were looking for, which is no big deal. Sell or trade the Schroe for something you do like. Swapping speakers in a cab is a crapshoot under the best circumstances, and in this case, a losing proposition. Those cabs were designed for those drivers. Try again.

 

Actually you could use a lot of different drivers in them - it's just that they'd sound about the same until you got up into the upper mids, the cab itself just really colors the output below the upper mids so much that driver choice isn't going to do much for lows or lower-mids and mid-mids.

 

+1 Per all the above posts, it is the cab design that results in that unique voicing that some love and some don't.

If you like the general tone of the Schroeder 1212 (tight and punchy), but want a less peaky, more even tone through the mids in a still small and lightweight box, you might consider selling your 1212 and getting a 1212BMF, which is a more traditional, non baffle design.

 

+1

I had a the 1212L and instead of it growing on me it started growing away from me very fast. I was more into it at first almost I think because it was so different.

Like K said some like it and others do not, I was a do not.

I don't think you are going to be able to escape that sound to much with that box no matter what ever you use for speakers IMHO.

 

You'll probably get closer to the tone you want if you remove the angled speaker and seal that hole with an airtight cover - more internal volume per woofer equals less of a midbass hump. However doing so would be akin to putting slick tyres on an SUV to go to trackdays, better off using something totally different. I gather the Schroeder 1212 has used quite a few different woofers and they all sound similar due to the cab design.

Alex

 

As is the case with most speakers the frequency response of that cab is primarily determined by the cab, not the drivers, so your quest would be fruitless.

 

My feeling with the 1212 is that it is what it is. Due to the construction it does one thing really well. It pushes loud mid/low mid that disperses well. It can be a godsend on a difficult stage. For me I found that I wanted something underneath its range and end up using mine like a 2x10, on top of a 15. I don't want a lot of highs, but I like to be heard and have everyone hear me. It definitely works for that. It's not a subtle cab.