When will soundmen ever learn? When will they understand that a heart-rate-altering bass drum sound, and walls of guitars that drown out the bass AND vocals do not make a good sound? It's just the opposite. I just went to see Mudvayne/Shadows Fall/Inflames last night, and I just couldn't believe my ears!! I want to hear the bass, but in Metal, it is slightly forgivable if you don't...but the vocals!!!??? Come on!!!!!! I almost could not hear them! Here they are, bursting the veins in their skull, screaming their nuts out, and you can barely hear it!! GET A CLUE, AND OPEN UP YOUR FRIGGING EARS, YOU KNOB-TWIDDLING JERK-OFFS!! I am sick of it. We as musicians should stand up for this. We should do something about it. When you play, make sure to tell the guy if the bass or the vocals are not audible. Get someone to go out front and listen while you play with the WHOLE band, and adjust accordingly. Don't allow these people to dial up a seismic bass drum sound that could rattle the Richter scale while drowning out everything else. Don't put up with this nonsense, otherwise, it keeps growing like a bad rash. I will try to search out other forums, etc., and I will try to spread the word about this. It's got to stop. Don't compromise, don't let yourself go unheard. We bust our fingers practicing, the least we can hope for is to be heard. A band's sound should be balanced, where every instrument is heard if you listen for it, and the vocals, obviously standing out a bit more over the overall sound. Peace.