speaker cabs and a small car?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by harley_ou812, Nov 26, 2001.

  1. harley_ou812

    harley_ou812

    Sep 30, 2001
    Lebanon, PA
    Ok here is the situation . I drive a pretty small car ( a 2000 grand am 2 door) I have a Hartke ha7000 wich i have been think of getting a 4 10 or 4 12 and a 1 15 but i dont know how i would fot that in my car namely the 4 10 or 4 12 would there be any disadvantages from going from a 4 10 at 4 ohms or 2 2 10 at 8 ohms? I was looking at peavey cabs ( i am fairly new to this so that was all i really have much of a chance to try. But in a 2 10 combination all they offer is 4 ohm. I have 2 2 12 sunn pa cabs that are petty old would i be better off putting in new drivers in these cabs ? I play a 5 string i am guessing that wouldnt be good due to tuning frequency. would the peavey cabs be ok for tuning frequency? The amp has a hi output and a lowoutput would i wanna runn the 10s in thie high and the 15 in the low or would i wanna run them all in full range? i know i ask to many questions but you never know unless you ask so thanks in advance.
     
  2. SRSiegel

    SRSiegel Guest

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ann Arbor, Michigan
    welcome to talkbass harley!

    as far as the 4 ohm 410, or two 8 ohm 210's, i can see no disadvaqntage whatsoever. in fact, i can see nothing but advantages. Im not sure how peavey builds their cabs, but by having two seperate cabs, you are seperating the drivers. I seem to remember hearing that keeping the drivers seperate is a good thing. I dont know about the head you have, but if it allows you to run in stereo, thats another advantage of the 2 210's. one huge advantage is portability and flexibility. you can take just one with you, or both. either way you can probably carry a 210 with one hand, and hence carry your whole rig rather easily by yourself. it also gives you the chance to arange your speakers differently. Ive heard of people stacking them the long way... so that you have a 410 stack thats as tall as your shoulder. better sound projection? dunno, never tried it. I have heard nothign but positive things about peavey's cabs, including their compatibility with a B string, but i havent played through one as of now. I am trying to find a 412 cab... im interested. another thing you might want to look into is 2 212's. those might have a higher power handling, and better frequency response, depending on the brand, and they will still have a good amount or portability. either way, good luck!
     
  3. harley_ou812

    harley_ou812

    Sep 30, 2001
    Lebanon, PA
    as far as the peaveys go my only problem is that the 2x10 it 4 ohms at 175 watts rms i am looking for 8 ohms at 175 rms so that i can run 2 8 ohms wich will give me 4 ohms at 350 rms wich would be perfect. So is there any other brand that you can think of for approx. the same price as the peaveys and the same quality? I heard alot of really good things about peavey but my only problem is that the 2x10 is 4 ohms and the4x10 wont fit in my car at least i dont think it will i can put my 2 12 in my car easily
     
  4. SRSiegel

    SRSiegel Guest

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ann Arbor, Michigan
    by the way, i wouldnt bother using those 212 PA cabs you said you have. unless their designed for bass guitar, they probably wont be of much use in the low frequencies, i could be mistaken though. also, dont bother replacing the drivers, as then the boxes would not be properly tuned for the drivers, nor would they have the correct volume. if you have the money, its been said that you cant go wrong with eden. i personally havent played one, though look at all the big names that do, and im sure youll be convinced. they have various 210 and 212 cabs, available in 4 or 8 ohms. you can pick up a used eden 210 cab for under 400 bucks in good condition, a very worth investment i would think. new.... thats gonna cost ya a bit more. if you dont mind buying used, check out ebay. ive seen more than a few eden 210's there. also just search in the musical instruments department under bass for "cab" and see what turns up. i would stay away from the carvin 210. I have one, and it really doesnt do the B string justice. it is touch, cheap, and lightweight, but frequency response doesnt even go below 60 Hz, its also not that loud. i would say check out nemesis by eden, but they only come in 4 ohm versions. isnt the hartke 7000 stereo? if so you could still run two 4 ohm cabs, one on each amp. another option would be to simply get two 4 ohm cabs and wire them in series using a special speaker cable. theyre not too difficult to make. this would result in a net impedence of 8 ohms. check out the eden website:

    http://www.eden-electronics.com

    I hear they are loud, well built, and very light. as well as good sounding. they will be less expensive than the david series cabs, but still good i think.

    im sorry i cant think of any 210s that are 8 ohms other than carvin's. you could always check one out, they do have a 10 day return policy, but I have not heard of one person who likes the way carvins cabs perform with a B string.
     
  5. :confused: Hey there Harley, if you have a 2000 grand am, the peavey 410 will not fit. I have a 97 grand am 4 door and peavey 410. I got it in the car once with a lot of grunting, but had a bear of a time getting it back out. I ended up damaging the material on the cab, and also the weather strip on the car. I wont put the cab in the car again. If you have a 2 door im sure it wont go in the back seat, and im sure it is too big for the front seat.
    I like the peavey cab, but i am considering a 210 to carry around to gigs, or a small enclosed trailer.
    good luck
    eddie:(
     
  6. jasonbraatz

    jasonbraatz Supporting Member

    Oct 18, 2000
    Milwaukee, WI
    get a hatchback.



    i can load so much stuff in my car it makes it look like one of those clown cars when i unload. i can carry every bit of electric equipment i own in my car when i fold the seats down, plus a suitcase, backpack, and passenger.

    btw it's a VW Scirocco 16v. :D so it's nowhere near big.



    jason
     
  7. captainpabst

    captainpabst

    Mar 18, 2001
    Tennessee
    swr and eden both make 210's that you can get in 4 or 8 ohm versions. i believe the gallien krueger 210's are 8 ohm cabs.

    for a 15 that might fit, try bag end.
     
  8. I thought it was either illegal, immoral, or fattening for a bassist to not own a truck.

    :D

    Sheesh... lying down, my rig takes up the whole bed of my Toyota PU. I couldn't imagine trying to haul a bass rig in my wife's Camry.
     
  9. harley_ou812

    harley_ou812

    Sep 30, 2001
    Lebanon, PA
    Thanks for your input i have been thinking about what i want to do. i kno a 4 10 wont fit but i know a 2 12 will si what i was thinking for was a 2 10 a 2 12 and a 1 15 i belive that will all fit and give me good range. what do you think.