I should first say I'm a guitar player who's playing bass in a band. I have an early 70's Fender Bassman head (50 watt) that I'm thinking about trying out for bass. One of the cabs I have is a small 2x10 closed back that is about 18 x24 x 10 inches. It looks like a small version of the 2x15 cabs that came with these heads. Here's some pics: http://picasaweb.google.com/haigkeith Is it worth putting a pair of bass speakers in to have a little cabinet for jams/rehearsals? What kind would you recommend for this cabinet? I was also thinking I could get a 1x15 later and plug that into the 2nd speaker jack on the head.
2x10 and a 1x15 is a pretty solid combination. Many people may recommend Avatar cabinets, so I guess I'll be the first. Very cost-effective, impressive cabs. http://www.avatarcabs.com
+1 on the Avatar recommendation. Putting new bass speakers in your existing cabinet will not sound as good as a cabinet that is correctly designed for the speakers it is using. Also, the price of a complete Avatar 2x10 cabinet is not much more than what you would pay for the speakers alone!
Eminence B102's. The whizzer cone ones are nice. I need to order me a few of those anyhoo. Have a lower freq. then the neo's.
Try the Eminence S2010's. Lightweight and similar to the deltalite 2510's but they are less expensive with lower power handling. 150w vs 250w (which you obviously don't need high power handling). Great speaker. Besides your cab looks cooler than the Avatar, which is the important thing. Sound shmound.
+1 for Eminence deltalite IIs ! a bit smaller box than my EBS (packed with similar woofers), but should work. is it a completely closed box?
The low end response of a cab is determined by how its porting is tuned to a specific set of drivers. Without knowing what the cab was designed for, it's a lucky dip whether a particular bass driver will sound huge or puny. My first 'real' bass amp was a 50w 70's Fender. My considered opinion is that it made a great guitar amp... but totally inadequate for bass.
Thanks for all the replies I'm starting to think it would be best to just get another cabinet to use for bass. I'm not sure how this one is ported and really have no experience with bass cabs. And yes it has a completely closed back. Whatever I get will have to carried up and down 2 flights of stairs to my apt., so I'm looking to keep things as light as possible. What do you think of another 2x10 plus a 1x15 cabintet? I'm going to take a look at the avatar cabs, but any other recommendations would be great. Also, if it turns the Bassman doesn't quite have enough power, I was thinking I could pick up another head and use it with the cabinets I buy for the Bassman.
Since weight is a concern, I'd make sure you find a 1x15 that's light enough before purchasing one. Some cabinets are being manufactured with neodymium magnets, which are much lighter but don't affect the sound at all. The 2x10's are generally decently light, but theres the neo option there too. If you're a DIY-er, and good with woodworking, you can always take the Bill Fitzmaurice approach, and build inexpensive, top of the line cabinets. (www.billfitzmaurice.com)
Which part, the sound? Or that companies are manufacturing with the magnets? If anything, the neo speakers have more midrange (and possibly a slightly less low end). Look at the spec sheets over at eminence.com. The Kappa Pro 10A and the Deltalite 2510 II are good to compare, as they both have similar sensitivities (97 and 97.3). The Deltalite 2510 II has more output in the midrange, but about 1dB less in the low end than the Kappa Pro.
Either way, you're not giving up much (you're actually adding midrange, which can always be EQ'd out if need be), but you're gaining the advantage of MUCH lighter speakers.
In general, yes, but it has nothing to do with the magnet material. Flux is flux. OTOH alnico designs tend to come from the '50s and early '60s, neos from the last five years, and ferrites from the decades in between. When drivers are redesigned for a different magnet everything else tends to be changed as well, from the frame to the voice coil to the cone, suspension and the spider, and it's those changes that change the response and tone. Between longer xmax and higher Qts the 2510 has higher sensitivity and output capability all around. You can't tell that from data sheet charts, as they are measured in a plain baffle, not a tuned cabinet, and they don't show max SPL.
Deltalite 2510 IIs are very strong in the lows, and very clear in the mids. for my ear. I think it's more about the construction (..stiff Al basket vs. ringy extruded steel basket) than the magnet material.