Speaker recommendations for 2x10 cab

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by tuba, Jun 24, 2008.

  1. tuba

    tuba

    May 6, 2008
    I should first say I'm a guitar player who's playing bass in a band. I have an early 70's Fender Bassman head (50 watt) that I'm thinking about trying out for bass.

    One of the cabs I have is a small 2x10 closed back that is about 18 x24 x 10 inches. It looks like a small version of the 2x15 cabs that came with these heads. Here's some pics: http://picasaweb.google.com/haigkeith

    Is it worth putting a pair of bass speakers in to have a little cabinet for jams/rehearsals? What kind would you recommend for this cabinet?

    I was also thinking I could get a 1x15 later and plug that into the 2nd speaker jack on the head.
     
  2. scuz

    scuz You can't be angry ALL the time!

    Mar 24, 2008
    Minneapolis, MN
    2x10 and a 1x15 is a pretty solid combination. Many people may recommend Avatar cabinets, so I guess I'll be the first. Very cost-effective, impressive cabs.

    http://www.avatarcabs.com
     
  3. joelc1319

    joelc1319

    Sep 12, 2007
    Eminence Deltalite II 2510's are really nice and VERY lightweight, but pricey...$110 a piece.
     
  4. scottbass

    scottbass Bass lines like a big, funky giant

    Jul 13, 2004
    Southern MN
    +1 on the Avatar recommendation. Putting new bass speakers in your existing cabinet will not sound as good as a cabinet that is correctly designed for the speakers it is using. Also, the price of a complete Avatar 2x10 cabinet is not much more than what you would pay for the speakers alone!
     
  5. chicago_mike

    chicago_mike

    Oct 9, 2007
    Chicago - LA - Rome - Dallas
    Endorsing Artist : Genz Benz
    Eminence B102's. The whizzer cone ones are nice. I need to order me a few of those anyhoo. Have a lower freq. then the neo's.
     
  6. BeauZooka

    BeauZooka

    Oct 2, 2007
    Seattle USA
    Try the Eminence S2010's. Lightweight and similar to the deltalite 2510's but they are less expensive with lower power handling. 150w vs 250w (which you obviously don't need high power handling). Great speaker.
    Besides your cab looks cooler than the Avatar, which is the important thing. Sound shmound.
     
  7. ZolkoW

    ZolkoW

    May 8, 2006
    Hungary, EU
    +1 for Eminence deltalite IIs !
    a bit smaller box than my EBS (packed with similar woofers), but should work.
    is it a completely closed box?



     
  8. The low end response of a cab is determined by how its porting is tuned to a specific set of drivers. Without knowing what the cab was designed for, it's a lucky dip whether a particular bass driver will sound huge or puny.

    My first 'real' bass amp was a 50w 70's Fender. My considered opinion is that it made a great guitar amp... but totally inadequate for bass.
     
  9. tuba

    tuba

    May 6, 2008
    Thanks for all the replies I'm starting to think it would be best to just get another cabinet to use for bass. I'm not sure how this one is ported and really have no experience with bass cabs. And yes it has a completely closed back.

    Whatever I get will have to carried up and down 2 flights of stairs to my apt., so I'm looking to keep things as light as possible.

    What do you think of another 2x10 plus a 1x15 cabintet? I'm going to take a look at the avatar cabs, but any other recommendations would be great.

    Also, if it turns the Bassman doesn't quite have enough power, I was thinking I could pick up another head and use it with the cabinets I buy for the Bassman.
     
  10. joelc1319

    joelc1319

    Sep 12, 2007
    Since weight is a concern, I'd make sure you find a 1x15 that's light enough before purchasing one. Some cabinets are being manufactured with neodymium magnets, which are much lighter but don't affect the sound at all. The 2x10's are generally decently light, but theres the neo option there too.

    If you're a DIY-er, and good with woodworking, you can always take the Bill Fitzmaurice approach, and build inexpensive, top of the line cabinets. (www.billfitzmaurice.com)
     
  11. scottbass

    scottbass Bass lines like a big, funky giant

    Jul 13, 2004
    Southern MN
    Uh, many people (including me) are not gonna agree with that statement.
     
  12. Stumbo

    Stumbo Guest

    Feb 11, 2008
    Check out this thread thread for more info on portable cabs.
     
  13. bakeronbass

    bakeronbass

    Apr 3, 2007
    Humboldt Ca
    Endorsing Artist; Schroeder Cabinets
    +1 on the Eminence. Have a pair in an eden cab. Best thing to happen to that cab.
     
  14. joelc1319

    joelc1319

    Sep 12, 2007
    Which part, the sound? Or that companies are manufacturing with the magnets?

    If anything, the neo speakers have more midrange (and possibly a slightly less low end). Look at the spec sheets over at eminence.com. The Kappa Pro 10A and the Deltalite 2510 II are good to compare, as they both have similar sensitivities (97 and 97.3). The Deltalite 2510 II has more output in the midrange, but about 1dB less in the low end than the Kappa Pro.
     
  15. bakeronbass

    bakeronbass

    Apr 3, 2007
    Humboldt Ca
    Endorsing Artist; Schroeder Cabinets
    Not sure that the head your refering to would be any good to power them though.
     
  16. scottbass

    scottbass Bass lines like a big, funky giant

    Jul 13, 2004
    Southern MN
    Exactly. Alnico and Neo speakers don't sound the same.
     
  17. joelc1319

    joelc1319

    Sep 12, 2007
    Either way, you're not giving up much (you're actually adding midrange, which can always be EQ'd out if need be), but you're gaining the advantage of MUCH lighter speakers.
     
  18. billfitzmaurice

    billfitzmaurice Commercial User

    Sep 15, 2004
    New Hampshire
    Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design
    In general, yes, but it has nothing to do with the magnet material. Flux is flux. OTOH alnico designs tend to come from the '50s and early '60s, neos from the last five years, and ferrites from the decades in between. When drivers are redesigned for a different magnet everything else tends to be changed as well, from the frame to the voice coil to the cone, suspension and the spider, and it's those changes that change the response and tone.
    Between longer xmax and higher Qts the 2510 has higher sensitivity and output capability all around. You can't tell that from data sheet charts, as they are measured in a plain baffle, not a tuned cabinet, and they don't show max SPL.
     
  19. ZolkoW

    ZolkoW

    May 8, 2006
    Hungary, EU
    Deltalite 2510 IIs are very strong in the lows, and very clear in the mids. for my ear. I think it's more about the construction (..stiff Al basket vs. ringy extruded steel basket) than the magnet material.