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speaking of making a fool of myself...

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [DB]' started by Limezone, Nov 6, 2001.

  1. So I was rehearsing with my buddy a saxaphonist on Saturday, He was having a jazz jam at his house with some of his (private)students and some other college students and some old pros.

    Well one of the alto players mentioned an open jazz jam at a resturant near my house on Sunday. Many of the pros who pass thorugh here stop in I'm told. The woman who runs it (a bass player, Susan Merrit) is the chairman of J.A.M.S. Jazz Arts Music Society.

    So I was feeling pretty confidant, I've been working really hard lately, really practicing alot, especially on my theory. I figured hey what have i got to lose.

    My wife and I went up there just before the band got started. got a table orderd some dinner. Had the upright in the van. I saw my friend whom had told me about this the day before. He said the band does the frist set before they start asking people up.

    We finished our dinner just as the first set was closing. And so far from what I'd heard I would do fine, especially if I was calling the tune.

    So between sets I went out got the bass, brought it back in pulled it out of the bag and tuned it trying to stand in the corner not to attract to much attention (Susan plays a black on black fretless jazz bass very nice).

    The band comes back does 2 tunes and asks a kid alto player to come up. This guy just won the JAMS scholarship to Berkley. He is smokin' then they ask me up.

    I'm as ready as I think I can be I've got tunes in mind I want to call. they call me up and the other bass player unplugs and hands me the cable. Plug the cable into the preamp, the cable is very short so I have to put the preamp on the floor and I can't reach it from a standing position. So I'm crouched down, turn the preamp up a little and nothing turn it up a little more still nothing. I know my gear is all healthy. Then the pianist realizes the bass amp had been turned off. Now I'm standing, he hits the switch and I immeadiatly begin to feedback because the preamp is now cranked and I cant reach it unless I drop the bass.

    So after what seemed like an eternity of feedback (maybe 5-7 seconds). He (the pianist) turns the amp off, by that time I had set the bass down and was reaching for the preamp. Ok I got it down to where it should be and ask the pianist to turn the amp back on. He asks are you sure?

    Okay now I'm back in a standing position and he asks what to play (By the way this guy was a little intimidating) My mind goes completely blank, having already made an ass of myself. I call out "One Note Samba in Bm" he says "we don't do that one, pick another" at this point I'm frazzled. So I say "Yardbird Suite in C" and proceed to fumble through it and "Blue Bossa".

    The pianist ended the set after that. I packed quickly and after thanking them for the opportunity, made a speedy get away.

    Since then I've been beating myself up over being such an idiot.

    Wondering if this public confession will make me feel better...
  2. Hey man. You did fine. You ever gig with that DB before? Ever play with those musicians?

    Everyone has an off night on stage. The incident as you described it seems pretty standard and common to me.

    And, like I always say...

    You were the one up there thumping the tub while everyone else in the place was sitting on their cabooses drinking draft, right?

    Feel good about it. You did great. And next time you'll do even better!

  3. Humm,
    Well Limezone, I got one for you that might make you feel better.This has to do with a EB but very embarassing to say the least. OK, I have played in Praise and Worship teams for many years. Have had a chance to play with very good musicians from around the area. Well, at my old church we had a revival meeting and the church I played for was very well know for being a rock&roll church. Light shows at times, solos, you name it. We played together for 7 years and were very tight. Well, the revival brought a bunch of people from other churches and also their musicians to come a watch us play" not bragging, just saying".
    Well that night we were on, all is good, we were jamming, place was hoping. By now you can see what type of church it was. We were into our say......third song" a funky slap pop number". I look out and see all the other musicians looking at me, wispering to one another:D . I`m really jamming. All the sudden......pop!! I broke my D string. OK, I play 6st EB. 6st basses have a 4 octive neck so I play at middle pitch and work up and down to other octives for my little runs so the D string is everything. Ok, I pretty much fall out of the song. The bottom falls out, the band is lost, the singers freak out. The praise leader realizes what happen and murcifully stops the song. Packed house. Everybody is watching me. Hears the kicker. The string breaks at the nut. When it broke, the string come up and slapped across my neck under my chin. This hurt. Ok I guess it made my eyes water. The people in the church really thought God was dealing with me. AND THEN !! you hear the fant small voice of a little old saint of a woman say......oh bless-em lord. Man I wanted to hide. Well, I pulled out my 4st and finished. I still get the" hey Dave, you remember when". All well, we have all had those nights. Have a good one.

    If the world didn`t suck we would all fall off:p
  4. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    And the moral is..?

    God doesn't want you to play with any more than 4 strings on your bass? :D

    Or that slap/pop is the work of the devil? ;)
  5. Could be.........I may have seen the light:p
  6. There ain't nobody out there who hasn't been humiliated/embarassed in a public performance.
    It's over. The only thing that matters now is to learn what you can from the experience. Take control: make it work for you rather than against you.
  7. Monte


    Jan 9, 2001
    DFW Area, Tejas
    PREcisely, Mr. Higdon. In college I was playing with our university big band at the Wichita Jazz Festival. The only chart that was electric bass was "North Beach Breakdown", and you guessed it, I broke the G-string early on. I made it through the song (I'm calm by nature) with only a few clams from having to play higher on the D string. When I got the comments from the IAJE judges, I got lots of praise from 2 of them for keeping composure, probably the reason I got an award. It certainly wasn't for my bass playing, which was only average college big band level at the time.

    Don't get scared, enjoy yourself. Most of us took up the instrument because we loved music enough to want to participate ( ok, that and the chicks:D ), so don't forget that it is fun to play the gig. The practice room is where you should be upset and nervous..............

  8. dhosek


    May 25, 2000
    Los Angeles, CA
    So with all those strings and all those frets you couldn't play around a missing string? It's really important to know your neck for just this sort of occasion.

  9. Monte:
    What's this "Mr." crap?

    By the way, I was with Lou DeLeone Tuesday (Gary Karr brought him his Amati when it got busted in Spain). Lou is totally in favor of wires in place of a tailpiece. It is not a new concept for him. Maybe I'll start a thread.
  10. Monte


    Jan 9, 2001
    DFW Area, Tejas
    It's a bad reference to Sherlock Holmes, as in "Precisely, Mr. Watson." I guess you would have had to see my hand motions tapping down a pipe;) .

    Interesting stuff, these tailpiece questions. I'm beginning to think that some of this luthier stuff is black magic that we aren't supposed to understand how it works.

  11. Monte


    Jan 9, 2001
    DFW Area, Tejas
    I agree, but muscle memory makes that harder than you would think. Try playing a lick or scale you have learned one way completely different on the fly. Not as easy as it sounds, I suspect.

  12. Well dhosek, you make a good point but, I said it was a slap song. I personaly hate to slap but that is what the song called for. If it were finger style, yes I could work my way around it but not slaping.
    Have a good day.
  13. Mundane:
    Didn't Holmes say "Doctor Watson?
  14. It is only bad if you didn't learn anything from it.

    For the next song you should have asked the guy if he knew "Rent a personality in Am"

    So has your public confession helped?
    I hope you are planning on going back once you get you confidence back up.
  15. erik II

    erik II

    Jul 11, 2000
    Oslo, Norway
    Limezone, I can imagine how you felt, but you were a victim of unfortunate circumstances (like a bass amp turned off - why? - with the master volume still up). Just file it under "sh't happens", next time bring your own cable and do the amp routine yourself. :)
    I thought the classic one was "Elementary, my dear Watson".

    ...or was it "A lemon tree, my dear Watson..." (movie reference :D).
  16. Monte


    Jan 9, 2001
    DFW Area, Tejas
    Ahh, I thinkERIK THE RED has it right, my dear Higgenbotham.....

  17. Correct, Erik, but I don't need Monte calling me "dear".
  18. Monte


    Jan 9, 2001
    DFW Area, Tejas
    Relax, no one who has ever met me in person has made that mistake.:D Although I did once spend 6 years working in the floral industry as a wholesale buyer of flowers..........:eek:

  19. yes, my public confession made me feel better. I don't know if I will go back this Sunday but I will go back. I know it was an unfortunate unfolding of circumstances, and yes I learned something. God doesen't want me to play a 6-string either. :p
  20. Monte


    Jan 9, 2001
    DFW Area, Tejas
    Yeah, there is some stuff in Exodus and Leviticus, as well as Paul's letter to the Corinthians about "un-natural acts". 6-string basses do fit in this category.


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