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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Thijs V, Dec 11, 2013.
Does anyone know sensitivity of this cab. 1w 1m? Can 't find it anywere
That's because they don't give it But after having them for 3 years, I can tell you that it's a medium duty cab with rather high sensitivity. The medium duty means that it won't get as loud as heavy duty 210's, but within its acceptable power handling range, it'll get pretty loud.
Anyway, I wouldn't sweat the sens specs not being there. The accepted standard of sensitivity in the industry is to measure it at 1 khz, and that only tells you how loud the cab is at 1 khz.
Ampeg claims this does the SVT tone, in a smaller box.
I think everyone that owns one makes that claim.
I'm one of those guys who could care less about specs. I've tried the 210av and the older 210he. The AV is smaller and looks cooler IMO. But the 210he sounds better and has better speakers. The 210av does not have the same 10" speakers which I'm guessing is one of the reasons they are able to sell it a bit cheaper.
Looks like he's offline, but he has said in the past you can cop a pretty decent SVT vibe by bumping the bass up a notch more than you would on the big one. Like the mids and highs are there, just needs a little help filling in the bottom.
I've no idea what the response, sensitivity or displacement of the AV 10's are.
Also one of the reasons it's only 26lbs.
If it's 26 lbs. it's made out of paper mache.
It is 26lbs, and it's made of awesome.
Bass Gear magazine tested this cab in house and published sensitivity specs. I remember them being highish--about 99 DB if memory serves.
You can order a PDF of the magazine from them.
I run two of these with a Tone Hammer 500 and have been very happy. Would definitely recommend using two in verticle stack. Gets loud enough for club gigs without PA support. Does not put out a lot of lows (say below 65) so if this is important to you, recommend looking at something ported.
I'd say that's probably accurate, and why something like an fdeck HPF really cleans them up and makes 'em sing. The vertical configuration of these sealed babies will definitely throw all the way to the back of the room; I tend to put the two on the floor to "cheat" and get the bigger low end I can feel.
I'd guess the box has a pair of S2010 installed at 3.5 pounds each.
They are probably tweaked a bit to Ampeg OEM specs.
These run well in 0.9 cubic feet, but are gutless below 70 Hz.
I tried to find the Bass Gear Mag article but couldn't. It might be in the Sadowsky issue that is apparently not available in the online flipbook format at the moment. In any event, I did locate the following thread which Tom Bowlus responds in regarding some of the specs:
I just picked up two of these cabs and they sound great IMO. I wasn't expecting huge bottom out of them being sealed but, to me, they do just fine with my basses (all five strings).
Righto, Will. And believe it or not, they're not made of paper mache Not exactly baltic birch either, but they are made of real plywood.
That said, I would be all over a heavier duty version of it like the old 210he's...but they can skip the h. That just designates a tweeter.
I did the same this morning, the flipbook version for that one has been down for a while. That had the full bench test on the SVT as well, I tried looking it up for a reference a while back and it wasn't working for me then either.
I asked this because i now have a heritage 410 HLF.
I also have one 210av and want to buy a second one.
So i wonder if two 210av's give the same or almost the same spl as the 410
I don't care for the same (sub)low.
Just want to know if i can do the same venue's in terms of loud enough.
It is all done with a micro vr amp.(love it)
Btw i had that amp also on a svt 8x10 and that's loud!
And insane loud on an old 410hlf pro.
But the real point is about weight and the sound of the 210av wich i really like
If a Micro VR is doing it for you with a 410hlf, I see no reason why two 210av's wouldn't do it for you with a Micro VR.
Thx that 's useful info.
Looks like 103db from post 286 of this thread:
Superb sounding cab.
Anyone know why there are pull-off loops at the bottom of the speaker cover but they don't actually pull the cover off? At least I have not pulled it off.