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Spector bass on eBay

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Nino Valenti, Nov 5, 2001.


  1. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1482720782

    This is a good one. :rolleyes:

    #1-They were made w/dot inlays not as a limited edition run. They were make that way :rolleyes:

    #2-The first run of Czeck basses had the "SSD" Logo w/ "Stuart Spector Designs LTD" neckplate.

    #3-Spell his name right!!!!!!! STUART!!!!!!!

    #4-Last I check on a map, NY is kinda far from Indiana.

    #5-Musician's Friend is still selling the dot inlay basses for $999.99.

    Buyer beware. I'm in a bad mood & just needed to vent.
     
  2. It's O.K to vent. keep this kind of post coming so that we all might avoid costly and useless purchases!!!!!!!
     
  3. flipperwhite

    flipperwhite

    Jul 12, 2001
    usa
    (e-bay moron voice on)hay,I got a "special" NSCRFM"P" it's got a factroy installed set of pickups!!this bass would sell for$6.000 without the "special pickups" which stalart schector pesonaly took a flight to thiland and installed himself,these "pickup" thingys really make this bace loud!my reserve is only $3.000 so bid today!!this is a really cool bace.....(e-bay moron voice off):rolleyes:
     
  4. Johnny BoomBoom

    Johnny BoomBoom Supporting Member

    Jun 8, 2001
    Glasgow, Scotland
    For an owner of a Spector to get it so wrong - could this be 'Stolen'????

    Just a thought! Thanks for the 'warning' Nino!

    BTW - I hate people who don't know what they've got - unless they don't really know how much more they could have gotten for it!
     
  5. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    I think he's looking for the uneducated consumer to buy it for big bucks. :(
     
  6. RAM

    RAM

    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I wouldn't be too sure...there are things you say that make some sense, but others that don't.

    First of all, he doesn't seem to spell well at all. He spelled "Stuart" correctly 2 out of 3 times. He spelled "purchased" as "perchased". I wouldn't hold someone as a liar about the origin of their bass based on the fact that they can't spell.

    Second of all, he said that he was from an area near Saugerties. How do you know he isn't? It only says that he lives near Indianapolis. Could he have moved from NY to Indiana at some point in his life?

    Third, though I don't know enough about Czech Spectors originally being called SSD's, I do have to ask how he got Stuart to sign the back of the headstock. Does Stuart do that on ALL Spector basses? That is, assuming it's not a forgery, which I can't identify from these pictures...

    There are other things I agree with you about. I do agree that he's placed a value on this that's too high. After all, all of the machines in the Czech factory operate to Stuart's specs, and he works on EVERY Spector when they're shipped to the US from overseas factories.;)

    Even so, I only think this seller's guilty of overpricing his bass. Frankly, I don't blame him: there's nothing wrong with putting a feeler out there to see if you can make a profit;)
     
  7. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    Early Czech Spector basses were made w/the SSD logo because Kramer stilled owned the swirly double "S" logo like in my avitar.

    Regardless of everything, It's a nice looking bass. :)
     
  8. RAM

    RAM

    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Well, that, I knew...mine is an SSD. It sure is a pretty bass, though:D

    Does Stuart's signature look like a forgery? Do you think that this was a prototype Czech and that Stuart did sign it when he was done with the setup?
     
  9. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    I really can't see the signature on the headstock. That could of been signed by Stu @ anytime, @ his shop, @ a NAMM show, etc. If it were a prototype, it'd have the SSD logo because he could still of gotten sued by Gibson (I think they own Kramer now.)
     
  10. beermonkey

    beermonkey

    Sep 26, 2001
    Seattle, WA
  11. RAM

    RAM

    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Sure, it could have been signed by Stuart at any time. But, I'm not daring enough to say that bass is NOT a prototype signed by Stuart when it was built.

    Quite frankly, prototypes may not fall under the same copyright guidelines as production models. The fact that we both probably will agree on is that Stuart was in the process of getting his name back on those basses as Spector instead of SSD. Therefore, it may have been produced in expectation that he'd have control over the name by the time the bass was due to be released to production. Therefore, I still contend that this bass could have been a prototype and we can't prove otherwise without asking Stuart.
     
  12. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    I just sent him an e-mail. :)
     
  13. The finish is 9.9 out of 10 what the heck does that mean he didn't feel like cleaning a finger print off.
     
  14. RAM

    RAM

    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    We already know he likes to exaggerate...he is, after all, charging the price for a Czech model that he could be charging for a used US model...

    I'm sure it's in good condition, but not perfect, as I believe he's trying to imply.;)
     
  15. RAM

    RAM

    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I'm curious to see if and how Stuart responds...
     
  16. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
     
  17. RAM

    RAM

    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Nino, that's a pretty telling quote! Whaddya think?
     
  18. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    It seems like a very vauge response. :( Didn't respond me ny question about it being a "Limited Edition" & if the buyer bought it from his shop. I never asked if it was legit or not. :(
     
  19. RAM

    RAM

    May 10, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    That's my point:D Stuart apparently indicated through JoAnn that it COULD be legit...

    It still seems like an awful lot to pay for this bass, but it'll be near impossible to prove the seller wrong on his claims;)
     
  20. Hmm...looks like the auction is closed now. Even if all the stuff he said were true, it's hard to put a value on it. Just like those "celebrity owned" basses. How much more is a 65 custom colour Jazz owned by Will Lee worth, than a non-Will Lee-owned 65 custom colour Jazz. Those are all kind of intangibles. Remember the guy who's trying to sell Jack Bruce's EB-3 for $125,000?