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Spector NS5CR vs. NS5CRFM

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Dave Metts, Aug 18, 2001.


  1. I've got a quick couple questions. I've been thinking about selling off a few of my basses to raise some money so I can order one of the discontinued Spector NS5CR basses from Musician's Friend (in black of course). I know that I have heard it said that these are identical to the newer Czech models (FM), but upon further inspection I'm not quite so sure. From what I gather, the discontinued model is only 34" scale, has no graphite reinforcement rods in the neck, and has standard dot inlays instead of crown inlays. The inlays are not even a factor, but I'm concerned that the lack of graphite reinforcement and 34" scale may hurt the quality of B string significantly. I know the newer Czech Spectors are supposed to have one of the better B strings out there, but what is the verdict on the older, discontinued model? Thanks for all of your help!
     
  2. seamus

    seamus

    Feb 8, 2001
    Jersey
    I thought the older NS5CR was 35" and had the graphite reinforcement. Maybe Nino can answer this.
     
  3. The older ones have 34" scale necks, but I'm not sure about the graphite reinforcement rods. Spector has some of the best B's out there. People have said that the older ones have as a tight of a B as the newer ones. Personally, I like 34" scale necks better because of playanility issues (I've got small hands).
     
  4. eric atkinson

    eric atkinson "Is our children learning "Is our teachers teachin

    Feb 4, 2001
    Joplin,Missouri
    :p

    Dude spend the extra cash and get the american bolt on! Twice the bass For just a little more cash! Plus you get a lifetime warrenty instead of a 3 year!?
     
  5. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    The "dot" CR's <b><u>DO</b></u> have the graphite reinforcement rods in the neck!!!! I have a USA & a CR 5 string, both w/34" scale neck & both "B" strings are flawless!!!!! Go with "dot", NO question!!!! :)

    <a href="http://www.theoremnyc.cjb.net"><img width=385 height=70 src="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1174383&a=8647027&p=41535909&Sequence=0&res=high"></a>
     
  6. Thanks for all of the replies on this one. I'm definitely looking into this now. I just hope MF doesn't stop this sale or run out of stock before I get the money together :)

    Eric: I would definitely go with a USA Bolt-on, but I just plain can't afford it. In order to afford this discounted Czech Spector I'm going to have to sell off a G&L L2500 and an Washburn RB-4000. The discounted Czech is only $1000, too. I won't be able to afford any more than that. I'm a college student with a very full load of classes (double majoring in mathematics and computer science) so I don't even have time to get a job to help finance a new bass. All of the money I use on bass equipment has to come from other basses I own now.

    Nino: On the MF site, it says the new CRs were upgraded with the new inlays, 35" scale, and graphite reinforcement rods in the neck. Are you absolutely sure that the older CRs have graphite reinforcement? I don't doubt you, He Who Knows All That Is Spector, but that's the impression I got from the MF site.

    Anyways, cheers to everyone and thanks again!
     
  7. seamus

    seamus

    Feb 8, 2001
    Jersey
    Try emailing Spector, I bet they'll get back to you with answers on the specs within a few days. I emailed them once before and heard back the very next day.
     
  8. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    That's what I was gonna say.
     
  9. phogchris

    phogchris www.scarsoflife.com

    May 27, 2000
    Boca Raton, FL
    When I got my discontinued Spector it was in used condition, so watch out. From what I hear they are buy backs from music stores and mine wasn't in very good condition, and MF said that if I returned it, the "new" one I received may be not be any better, so I got my money back...
     
  10. damn phogchris, that's pretty disheartening...

    Looks like I may just have to put my plans on hold until I can scrape together enough money to buy a new Czech Spector outright.

    Thanks a lot for that warning.
     
  11. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    Yes. i have an old caoalouge & it say's so. :)

    info@spectorbass.com
     
  12. Thanks for checking up on that, Nino. Still seems to me that I may be better off just trying to find the money for one of the newer model Czech Spectors. I don't think I want to pay $1000 for a used older model. Any idea how much the newer models are going for on the used market? I rarely if ever see them on Ebay, and there aren't too many good music stores around here (Kansas City, MO).
     
  13. phogchris

    phogchris www.scarsoflife.com

    May 27, 2000
    Boca Raton, FL
    When I received my Spector it had alot of wear near the G string from people "slapping" on it I suppose(more wear than my year and a half old Modulus!!), you may get one that is in mint condition, but it seems like a crap shoot to me. A friend of mine has a new one with the crown inlays and the flame top and it is worth the extra money if you like Spectors, which I don't, but whatever...
     
  14. SMG

    SMG Supporting Member

    Apr 17, 2000
    metro Detroit
    I got an NS4CR about a month ago from MusicansFriend. It was on their blem page for $419. It arrived in perfect condition in the original packing box from Spector. Furthermore, I have never seen a new bass that was set up as good as this was. I have searched the thing high and low for "blems" and all could find were two little "pinholes" in the lacquer along the bottom edge. Definitely a keeper.

    Steve
     
  15. eric atkinson

    eric atkinson "Is our children learning "Is our teachers teachin

    Feb 4, 2001
    Joplin,Missouri
    Hey dude i didnt know you were in kc! Iam down soutj of you in joplin mo! Make the trip and go to the store called glory days music! He has a new check spec in there that is the store bass and iam sure he will get you a good deal! I bought my american bolt on through them and got a great deal! I paid about 2100 for her! But that is with a ll the extras! Just come down and give me a call before you get here and i will go with you once i get damn good deals there because ive spent so much money there! Let me see if i can find a pic of what it looks like! i will post again in a sec! They generally will match the price from mf!
     
  16. eric atkinson

    eric atkinson "Is our children learning "Is our teachers teachin

    Feb 4, 2001
    Joplin,Missouri
    This is the same one they have there now! Same color!
     
  17. Hey there Eric. I may take you up on that offer! Right now I'm in Columbia for college, but I'm originally from the KC area. I'll hafta see what I can do about getting some cold, hard cash together and coming down to Joplin. That blue and black finish is exactly what I want. It's so beautiful.

    Just don't ask me to impress with any of my playing. I'm not a bass wizard or anything :)

    Edit/Addition: I just checked a map and it looks like it'll take me quite a while to get there (like 4 hours or so). It may be tough to find that kind of time since I'm a student. Any idea how much that bass might be going for so I know if it's really worth the trip? Also, is the bass in stock down there a 4 or a 5? I'm really looking for a 5-string since 4 doesn't really do it for me anymore. I like having that low B!
     
  18. eric atkinson

    eric atkinson "Is our children learning "Is our teachers teachin

    Feb 4, 2001
    Joplin,Missouri
    Ahh the one they have there is a 4 string! I will ask in the next couple days how much it would go for! We can go in there and funk around on it for awhile! There is several good music stores here in Joplin! And man if anyone ever wants to find a old fender or a old bass they need to go about 20 miles south of joplin and go to fly by night music! They have a warehouse of old stuff! It takes all day to play with all the stuff they have there!
     
  19. Well I definitely won't be making a trip to Joplin to check out that bass since it's not a 5-string. Thanks for all of the help, though. I'm a 5-stringer for life now that I've gotten accustomed to them.
     
  20. Sofa King

    Sofa King

    Aug 20, 2000
    Rowlett, TX
    What do you mean used? Aren't they just discontiuned, not used?